[nagdu] Pulling

[Lisa]

Hi Rox,

oh yes, that's an interesting aspect that a guide often starts to pull on 
lead because they're used to doing it in harness, I forgot this in my 
message to Julie.
Your method sounds logical and interesting, too. We'll see what works best 
with Taylor.

Oh, and to the whole list: Don't worry, I'm not going over the posting 
limit, this will be my last e-mail for today. ;-)

Lisa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Pawpower Pack via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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Cc: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2015 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pulling


> Hi Lisa,
> I think many guide dogs start pulling on lead after a while because they 
> become so used to pulling against resistence.  Like in the harness, but 
> now on the lead.
> I have tried the Be a Tree method and found that for my lab, it did not 
> work so well.  Sure, she wanted to continue forward, but if I won't do 
> that, she'll sniff, or get up to other behaviors I'd prefer she'd not do. 
> And the whole thing just seemed to be a big time suck with little 
> improvement.  Instead, I use something I call penalty yards.
> I start forward, dog starts to pull, and I stop and without saying 
> anything, do a 180 turn.  Dog is unhappy, so walks slowly in perfect 
> position next to me and I click that instant right when she's in the 
> correct position, and give her a treat.  Then I turn back around and 
> continue.  So not only is she getting a treat, which for a lab is like a 
> bonus, but she gets to go forward again, too.
> I also use this method in guidework when I can tell she's distracted by 
> something— other dog, cat, etc.
> Good luck!
>
> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Taylor has developed a very unpleasant habbit of pulling. But only while 
>> he's not not in harness but on a short leash. Apart from that, I 
>> appreciate his pace very much. But when we're going for walks or just 
>> anytime he is supposed to stay next to me, the problem occurs. And it's 
>> neither because of major distraction, nor because of having to relieve 
>> very urgently.
>> He's actually always in front of me. I did some research and tried 
>> several things, e.g. the "Be a tree"-method: Everytime the dog starts to 
>> pull, you'll stand still. When the dog comes back to you, you praise him 
>> a lot. It seems to work for a lot of people. The disadvantage of this 
>> method is apparently the lack of info the dog gets. So, why his owner 
>> suddenly freezes. So, when I tried this, Taylor would come back, get 
>> praised and then just walk calmly in front of me again. Maybe I'm too 
>> impatient and should try this again but I also wanted to hear your 
>> experiences.
>>
>> My school only taught me to give him a leash correction anytime he 
>> started to pull but I'm not convinced this is the right thing to do...
>> So, as always, I'm curious what you all say.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Lisa
>>
>>
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