[nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

[Julie J.]

Shannon,

The resolution itself changes nothing at the guide dog schools.  The 
resolutions are used as guiding principles for the organization.  A positive 
vote means that the organization will/can actively pursue that goal.  a 
negative vote means little because the goal can still be pursued, just not 
with the force of the entire organization behind it.  Once a resolution is 
passed, the decentors are supposed to keep their dissenting opinions to 
themselves and support the vote.  However a resolution that didn't pass 
means that the concept is still up for debate or discussion.  A resolution 
that doesn't pass isn't considered to be a policy or decision.  For example 
the resolution we are discussing if passed would mean that the NFB would 
actively work with the guide dog schools to provide ownership.  since it 
didn't pass it means nothing.  It doesn't mean that the NFB supports non 
ownership.  It means the issue is still open and undecided. If folks wanted 
the NFB's position and support to go to the idea of the schools retaining 
ownership, then a resolution to that effect would have to be introduced and 
passed. Perhaps the resolutions could be viewed as a priority list of things 
the organization wants to accomplish.  At least this is the way I have 
always understood resolutions.

Julie
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Shannon Dyer via nagdu
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:26 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Shannon Dyer
Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

Hi, all.

I mean no disrespect here. I’m just seeking to understand the resolution 
better.

So, if it had passed, how would this have affected the schools? For example, 
if I chose to go to a school that did not grant immediate ownership, how 
would this resolution have helped me? My understanding is that the guide dog 
schools are independent entities. How does this resolution get them to 
change their policies?

Curiously,
Shannon and the Acelet
> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Becky Sabo via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Tina, I agree it shouldn't not gone to the rollcall upstate. At least 
> it did not go through. Becky Sabo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Tina Thomas via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org 
> <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
> Well to be truthfully honest it never should've went to a rollcall states 
> it was obvious that the nose had it but hey somebody just couldn't take 
> the loss so they try to sneak it through by asking for a rollcall but 
> thank God in the end democracy and justice prevailed
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> So this went to a counted vote by the state delegates?  Where can I go to 
>> see which state voted which way?
>>
>> And was this announced on this list?  I honestly had no idea this 
>> resolution was being presented until it was way too late to talk to the 
>> people in my state about it.  Hopefully they know my thoughts on the 
>> subject, but I'm not there and it bothers me that I didn't know to be 
>> able to explain my views beforehand.
>>
>> Julie
>>
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