[nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

Fri Jul 10 20:33:01 UTC 2015

I know, but it should! Anyway, looking at scool contracts and basing your decisions on that should work. Now that people are aware that the problem exists and they also know what schools do give ownership maybe people will use there intelligence and figure out what they want! 

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan via nagdu
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

Larry,

Much as I wish this were the case, it is not. Julie's interpretation is correct: a resolution is a guiding principle, and of course, the schools are free to ignore it as they choose. So in practical terms, it doesn't change anything except our emphasis and stated belief as an organization.

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> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:02 AM, larry d keeler via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> If the resolution had passed, schools would have to give you ownership of your dog after completion of your training! They couldn't take the dog without due process.
> 
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer via nagdu
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:27 AM
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> Cc: Shannon Dyer
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed
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> Hi, all.
> 
> I mean no disrespect here. I’m just seeking to understand the resolution better.
> 
> So, if it had passed, how would this have affected the schools? For example, if I chose to go to a school that did not grant immediate ownership, how would this resolution have helped me? My understanding is that the guide dog schools are independent entities. How does this resolution get them to change their policies?
> 
> Curiously,
> Shannon and the Acelet
>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Becky Sabo via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hey Tina, I agree it shouldn't not gone to the rollcall upstate. At 
>> least it did not go through. Becky Sabo
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Tina Thomas via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>> Well to be truthfully honest it never should've went to a rollcall 
>> states it was obvious that the nose had it but hey somebody just 
>> couldn't take the loss so they try to sneak it through by asking for a 
>> rollcall but thank God in the end democracy and justice prevailed
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So this went to a counted vote by the state delegates?  Where can I go to see which state voted which way?
>>> 
>>> And was this announced on this list?  I honestly had no idea this resolution was being presented until it was way too late to talk to the people in my state about it.  Hopefully they know my thoughts on the subject, but I'm not there and it bothers me that I didn't know to be able to explain my views beforehand.
>>> 
>>> Julie
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