[nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

[Michael Hingson]

It is now, I believe, two years. 


Regards,


Michael Hingson

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of larry d keeler
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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

They do after a year. 

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

  What's the status of Leader Dogs in Rochester in which do they grant
ownership of the dog upon graduation?

El 10/07/2015 07:32 a.m., Michael Hingson via nagdu escribió:
> Hi,
>
> Actually, why is it different with ownership than without? The Seeing 
> Eye has granted ownership since its beginning. As TSE and the other 
> four schools that grant ownership know the dogs are protected under 
> law and the dogs are in  no more danger if ownership is granted.
>
> On the other hand, schools have taken dogs away from handlers without 
> any kind of due process. Who protects the consumers? This is an issue 
> as old as time. Who has the rights, the dogs or the consumers. I stand 
> with the consumers. Yes dogs need to be protected. If schools accept 
> students who do not treat their guides well then who is at fault? The
schools, of course.
> They did not do as good a job of screening as they should have done.
>
> No, ownership should be granted and the schools should have enough 
> faith in their graduates and in their own processes that they give the 
> ownership that they should provide.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne 
> Denning via nagdu
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 5:18 AM
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> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed
>
> Tina, I also thought the vote was no but I thought that might have 
> been where I was sitting.  I voted no because my concern is for the 
> well being of the dog.  Who speaks up for and protects them?
>
> On 7/9/15, Tina Thomas via nagdu<nagdu at nfbnet.org>  wrote:
>> Well to be truthfully honest it never should've went to a rollcall 
>> states it was obvious that the nose had it but hey somebody just 
>> couldn't take the loss so they try to sneak it through by asking for 
>> a rollcall but thank God in the end democracy and justice prevailed
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Julie J. via nagdu<nagdu at nfbnet.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>> So this went to a counted vote by the state delegates?  Where can I 
>>> go to see which state voted which way?
>>>
>>> And was this announced on this list?  I honestly had no idea this 
>>> resolution was being presented until it was way too late to talk to 
>>> the people in my state about it.  Hopefully they know my thoughts on 
>>> the subject, but I'm not there and it bothers me that I didn't know 
>>> to be able to explain my views beforehand.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
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