[nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

[Debby Phillips]

Hey Donna, I love your comment. When the choice was made not to read the whereas portions of the resolutions, I was afraid that there would be confusion about the resolution we have been discussing. 

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> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Howard J. Levine via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Could you please explain your last comment.
> 
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Applebutter Hill
> via nagdu
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:38 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Applebutter Hill
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed
> 
> Margo,
> Maybe this is a wake-up call to alert us to just how much "Stepin Fetchit"
> mentality underlies our struggle for equality.
> Donna & Hunter
> 
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of margo and isis
> via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 4:53 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: margo and isis
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed
> 
> Buddy, I ditto your remarks.  I am amazed and bewildered that our
> organization can take a position that promotes low expectations of blind
> people.
> 
> We get involved in agencies' policies.  Why is so much of a problem to deal
> with guide dog schools' policies.  Why do we put them on a pedestal?  Why do
> we treat them as gods?
> 
> Margo and isis
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan via
> nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 4:31 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Buddy Brannan
> Subject: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed
> 
> So the resolution re: guide dog ownership and the NFB's support of
> advocating for the schools to change of ownership just failed to pass. I'm
> amazed. I'm disappointed. I'm frankly puzzled. How is it that we believe
> policies saying it's OK for guide dog schools to retain ownership, and this
> apparently does not connote low expectations for blind people, when such a
> position in any other context would never stand?
> 
> One thing that the folks who spoke in favor failed to mention, though I
> guess it wouldn't have helped, was this. Even if schools aren't routinely in
> the business of repossessing dogs without due process, the point is that
> they shouldn't have the ability to do so. It's great that it's never
> happened to most of us. It's fantastic that you feel as though you own your
> dog in every way that matters. But some day, the way things are now, this
> may not be the case, and we want to protect against that. After all, yes, we
> are essentially being given an expensive gift. Let's just for the sake of
> argument say that this is the case, though I know that there would be
> argument on that point. The point is, if the schools deem a student worthy
> of this gift, they should feel confident enough in this decision to give it
> without such reservations. If they do not, maybe they need better screening
> processes.
> 
> I'm just flabbergasted.
> 
> 
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> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
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