[nagdu] resolution on ownership

[Cindy Ray]

I'm not sure how that relates to what I said. I disagree that the resolution
should have; usually we ask the state members there before we vote how they
see the vote and then we vote accordingly. Usually one member wouldn't
constitute how the affiliate felt. However, my point was that all guide dog
users are not with us on this resolution. I don't think we can ever get it
passed as long as NAGDU is so split on it, but I am in full agreement with
it.
Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tina Thomas via
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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 3:26 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Tina Thomas
Subject: Re: [nagdu] resolution on ownership

Cindy- Given the voice vote, demonstrates that not all dog handlers agreed
with the resolution. The roll call of states was just a formality. The
resolution failed and it should have. 
Tina    

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 1:05 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Cindy Ray
Subject: Re: [nagdu] resolution on ownership

You are probably right to some extent. However, many within NAGDU agreed
with it; many other dog handlers did, too. My state president polled one
person, a dog handler, and he said she should vote against it. She did.
Cindy Lou


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Cannon via
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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 2:49 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Aaron Cannon
Subject: Re: [nagdu] resolution on ownership

Hi.

My opinion is that the responsibility for this resolution failing rests
largely on us, NAGDU.  I think we simply have not done an adequate job of
informing the general membership of this issue.

I'm certainly not blaming anyone, just giving my opinion on what happened.
I think most of us were taken aback by the result, and it has been a great
learning experience for this division.

Aaron

On 7/13/15, Elizabeth Campbell via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I know that there have been many messages on this subject, and I 
> apologize for chiming in so late, but I am buried under mountains of 
> email, as I didn't spend much time checking messages from Orlando.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I was also disappointed that the resolution did not pass as 
> the question of ownership has been a concern since I joined NAGDU 
> several years ago.
>
> Yes, people do have a choice when it comes to which school they apply 
> to when getting a dog. Allowing unconditional ownership upon 
> graduation from a school sends a message that the school believes that 
> a blind person is capable of handling the responsibilities of caring 
> for and making decisions concerning the well-being of the dog. I 
> certainly don't like the idea of donors having a hand in deciding a 
> question as  important as ownership. It harkens back to the thinking 
> that blind people are not capable of making their own choices and 
> decisions.Another argument that stood out to me during the discussion 
> of the resolution during the NAGDU meeting involved Marion reminding 
> us that ownership of a dog also means that a blind person has due 
> process if for instance a school removed the dog without giving the 
> person a chance to explain a particular situation. Marion, my 
> apologies I hope I am correct on this point.
>
>
>
> I hope we can introduce the resolution again next year for 
> re-consideration at our 2016 convention.
>
>
>
> Best to all.
>
>
>
> Liz
>
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