[nagdu] schools sharing info was Let me make it clear

Mon Jul 20 15:17:56 UTC 2015

I agree, there should be a box to check.  And there may be on the TSE
application--I forget.
But there's all kinds of sharing.  There's one admission office calling
another school's admission office and asking for someone's records.
And then there's 2 people meeting at the bar during a conference and
gossipping.  Some people gossip, and some don't.  An institution can have
a policy of protecting student confidentiality, and discipline or fire
people who don't adhere to it, if they find out, but do they?  I don't
know. I do know TSE is insistent on confidentiality.  And I also know some
trainers gossip.  Does it affect who gets admitted or not?  I don't know.
Tracy

> Seems like it would be a breech of confidentiality, unless of course it's
> somewhere in the application that you agree to and sign.
>
> Perhaps I view it like for a job application.  Usually there is a box to
> check if you give permission for them to contact a previous employer.
> Maybe
> if you don't give permission it counts against you, I don't know, but I
> appreciate the opportunity to make that decision and to explain why I
> don't
> want that employer to be contacted.
>
> Julie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: S L Johnson via nagdu
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] schools sharing info was Let me make it clear
>
> I've been told by many trainers over the years that the schools do share
> information.  Anyone who thinks they don't, think again.  They all know
> each
> other and do not hesitate to share information.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] schools sharing info was Let me make it clear
>
>     I think mostly I'm opposed to school's sharing info.  I think it would
> be difficult to separate out the gossip and dislike of someone from actual
> histories of abuse.  If someone switches schools, it is most often done
> because there was an issue with the last program, they weren't satisfied
> with the quality of the dogs, they didn't get along with staff, the dog's
> weren't healthy etc.  Sure sometimes people change schools due to
> location,
> a change in program policies or curiosity.  If someone wasn't satisfied
> with
> the quality of training and asked for a lot of follow up, which the school
> was resistant to provide, wouldn't it be easy for the next school to hear
> about how this blind person constantly complains and can never be
> satisfied?
>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Let me make it clear
>
> Debby, I wonder how that sort of thing can be addressed without infringing
> on our rights! I personally would love to see schools being able to share
> sertain things like abuse history or misuse of they're dogs. I've seen
> many
> examples where no one such as animal control is willing to step in and
> stop
> the abuse of a service animal!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Let me make it clear
>
> Marianne, I truly do not believe that ownership or not makes much
> difference
> in whether someone is going to abuse a dog or not.
> What does concern me is this.  I knew of someone who got two dogs from a
> school (where ownership was not offered).  Both dogs were not treated
> well.
> Then he got two dogs from Seeing Eye.  I was appalled, and told people at
> TSE that I was.  My opinion didn't matter, of course.  Even though I lived
> in the same town and saw the dogs.  I saw a beautiful German Shepherd
> (ears
> perked, tail wagging).  Within two months that dog lay growling when you
> came near it.  I believe it did go to court, and the judge did not allow
> the
> dog to be taken.  Then this person went to Pilot.  At this point, I was
> not
> in much contact with that dog, but was told by reliable people that that
> dog
> didn't fare well, either.  The last time I knew of him having a dog, he
> got
> one privately trained.  I can't figure out why he got a second chance EVER
> at having a second dog.  If the schools have confidentiality rules, they
> should at least be able to share with each other.  If a school knows that
> a
> dog was abused, shouldn't there be some kind of policy that they would let
> the second school know? I don't know, maybe that's asking way too much.  I
> just know that I
> really really hate the thought of what happened to those dogs.
> Debby and Nova
>
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