[nagdu] Dog in the work place?

Daryl Marie crazymusician at shaw.ca
Sun Jun 14 02:26:52 UTC 2015


Julie,<br>When my boss first brought up the subject yesterday, I did mention prior occasions where I have brought Jenny in to meetings with this coworker. Even if Jenny is lying down, across the room, this woman is still very afraid of her as indicated by her body language.  She is so terrified that last week, she asked if Jenny was in the lunch room before even setting foot in there. When she was told no, she came in, and then either someone saw Jenny or she sat up, it became clear that Jenny was in the lunch room, and this coworker just very uneasily got her food and left.  I have no problems chatting with her when Jenny isn't around, but Jenny's presence makes it very awkward.<br><br>I am willing to concede this for no other reason than this is going to be a one-of thing, there is no valid reason for Jenny to be in the meeting with me, and because bringing her for the sake of it will create an impression for the CEO that there is more tension in the office than there actually is, and the only way to do that is to leave Jenny at my desk. <br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: Julie McGinnity via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com> Sent: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:14:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place? I think your strategy is good. It's a difficult situation. I agree that it seems that the fears of others automatically superceed our use of mobility aides specially trained for us. What your boss fails to understand is that your dog isn't a dog (And I'm not about to call Jenny your eyes...). She is your mobility aide and should be treated as such. Of course, she goes with you when you need her-nothing more, nothing less. My question is: if you have a positive relationship with your coworker, can you ask her about this? Depending on my relationship with the coworker in this situation, I would go straight to the supposed source. If she says that she doesn't have a problem with it, then you know you've got a larger issue to deal with here. On 6/13/15, Danielle Sykora via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > This is a little late, but here's what I think. If I were in this > situation, I would bring my dog to the meeting and expect to sit > across the room from the coworker for a couple of reasons. I do not > appreciate people telling me when and where to bring my dog because it > is my decision and my decision alone. Also, I feel as if people > generally expect the service dog user to make sacrifices while the > person with fear issues is not expected to have to face their fears at > all. Having my dog in the room but at some distance from the person > with the fear seems like a reasonable compromise for me. > > Just my thoughts, > Danielle and Thai > > On 6/13/15, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> Hey, guys, >> >> Thanks so much for your insights. >> >> I think I've reached a conclusion I am happy with, as to neither make >> waves >> nor make myself a pushover: >> >> 1) I will leave Jenny at my desk for this meeting, not because I have >> been >> asked to, but because there is no particular need for her to be there. I >> have FULL confidence that she will stay quietly and happily at my desk >> (it >> IS her nap time after all) and will leave her a bone to keep her >> occupied. >> 2) I will speak openly with my boss, letting him know the position he has >> put me in. I will also make it abundantly clear that I am making this >> concession simply because the CEO is in the office and I don't wish to >> make >> a fuss over it. But this will not be a habit, HE is not to dictate this >> in >> the future, and while I respect this coworker's right to be afraid, in a >> year and a half being in the same office, my dog has NEVER done anything >> to >> her. >> >> While I can't say that I am thrilled with the whole situation, this is >> probably the best solution I can come up with. I respect my boss, and I >> know that my boss respects me, so a conversation can't hurt. >> >> Daryl >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Weiner via nagdu >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> Sent: Sat, 13 >> Jun >> 2015 16:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place? >> Don't >> forget, and I've seen it time and time again. The feelings and rights of >> blind people, as far as the boss or whoever is concerned are trumped , by >> the thoughts, desires, concerns, or fears of anyone else. Sorry but I'm >> trying to tell it like it is. As Dan likes to say, and I'll admit I'm >> probably a bit insufferable at times about this stuff: It isn't a dog >> popularity contest. You have a guide dog for a reason. I think you wrote >> a >> good post, Rebecca. Best wishes to all. Dan Weiner dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net >> -----Original Message----- From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Star Gazer via nagdu Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:56 PM To: >> 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users' Cc: Star >> Gazer Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place? 					I'd just bring the >> dog to the meeting and then apologize, the old "It's better to beg >> forgiveness then ask permission" adage. I also wonder why the boss is >> getting involved and is siding with the coworker? The most he should do >> is >> say "The dog has a right to be here" along with suggesting the employee >> get >> some counceling. This fear seems way beyond healthy. -----Original >> Message----- From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Elise Berkley via nagdu Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:27 PM To: NAGDU >> Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users Cc: Elise >> Berkley >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place? Wow, Debby. I like that >> suggestion. It makes a lot of sense. Love your answers and the answers of >> the others. Elise and the Beckster -----Original Message----- From: Debby >> Phillips via nagdu Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:09 PM To: NAGDU Mailing >> List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users ; nagdu at nfbnet.org Cc: >> Debby Phillips Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place? Okay, this may >> sound weird. But I think leaving Jenny at your desk is fine, and in fact >> could be a good thing, but you need to make it like it's your choice, you >> know? You don't want people to get the idea that you'll back down about >> having your dog with you when you choose to, or need to. (Not sure how to >> tell you to do that). And it's kind of a slippery slope. I had this issue >> with my family for awhile. "Well, you left the dog home this last time.... >> I >> know family's different than work, but still some of the same dynamics >> can >> come into play. Hopefully someone else just be able to articulate what >> I'm >> trying to say in a better wan. 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