[nagdu] Dog in the work place?

Jody Ianuzzi thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 15 21:49:21 UTC 2015


Hello Donna

Daryl lives in Canada and therefore is not covered by the ADA

I am very glad things resolved the way they did   

JODY 🐺
thunderwalker321 at gmail.com

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)

> On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Applebutter Hill via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Daryl,
> My thought upon reading the posts to this point is that no one has pointed
> out the interpretation of the ADA in this situation. I can't speak for the
> workplace, but in terms of using a service dog in places like stores,
> restaurants, motels, your rights trump allergies and phobias. A restaurant
> owner, for instance, may be concerned that your dog will upset a customer
> who is afraid of or allergic to dogs, and therefore try to seat you in an
> unused room or out-of-the-way table. This is not permitted under the ADA. I
> hope someone will chime in about the differences in workplace accommodation,
> if there are any.
> 
> I hope you have a productive conversation with your boss. It's OK to
> accommodate your coworker in this situation, but I am, like others,
> concerned that this will be interpreted as the norm for future situations.
> I'd talk to your coworker (without the dog) and explain that you did this
> just this once, but that you want to work out something for future meetings
> that will allow you to exercise your legal right to use your guide dog
> freely. Explain that her fear can be mitigated through therapy, if not by
> being at a distance from you, and tell her that conversely, your blindness
> cannot.
> HTH,
> Donna & Hunter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie via
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 7:21 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Daryl Marie
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place?
> 
> Hey, guys,
> 
> Thanks so much for your insights.
> 
> I think I've reached a conclusion I am happy with, as to neither make waves
> nor make myself a pushover:
> 
> 1) I will leave Jenny at my desk for this meeting, not because I have been
> asked to, but because there is no particular need for her to be there.  I
> have FULL confidence that she will stay quietly and happily at my desk (it
> IS her nap time after all) and will leave her a bone to keep her occupied.
> 2) I will speak openly with my boss, letting him know the position he has
> put me in.  I will also make it abundantly clear that I am making this
> concession simply because the CEO is in the office and I don't wish to make
> a fuss over it. But this will not be a habit, HE is not to dictate this in
> the future, and while I respect this coworker's right to be afraid, in a
> year and a half being in the same office, my dog has NEVER done anything to
> her.
> 
> While I can't say that I am thrilled with the whole situation, this is
> probably the best solution I can come up with.  I respect my boss, and I
> know that my boss respects me, so a conversation can't hurt.
> 
> Daryl
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Weiner via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> Sent: Sat, 13 Jun
> 2015 16:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place?  Don't
> forget, and I've seen it time and time again. The feelings and rights of
> blind people, as far as the boss or whoever is concerned are trumped , by
> the thoughts, desires, concerns, or fears of anyone else. Sorry but I'm
> trying to tell it like it is. As Dan likes to say, and I'll admit I'm
> probably a bit insufferable at times about this stuff: It isn't a dog
> popularity contest. You have a guide dog for a reason.  I think you wrote a
> good post, Rebecca.  Best wishes to all. Dan Weiner dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
> -----Original Message----- From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Star Gazer via nagdu Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:56 PM To:
> 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users' Cc: Star
> Gazer Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place?
> I'd just bring the dog to the meeting and then apologize, the old "It's
> better to beg forgiveness then ask permission" adage. I also wonder why the
> boss is getting involved and is siding with the coworker? The most he should
> do is say "The dog has a right to be here" along with suggesting the
> employee get some counceling. This fear seems way beyond healthy.
> -----Original Message----- From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Elise Berkley via nagdu Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:27 PM To:
> NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users Cc: Elise
> Berkley Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place? Wow, Debby. I like that
> suggestion. It makes a lot of sense. Love your answers and the answers of
> the others. Elise and the Beckster -----Original Message----- From: Debby
> Phillips via nagdu Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:09 PM To: NAGDU Mailing
> List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users ; nagdu at nfbnet.org Cc:
> Debby Phillips Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in the work place? Okay, this may
> sound weird. But I think leaving Jenny at your desk is fine, and in fact
> could be a good thing, but you need to make it like it's your choice, you
> know? You don't want people to get the idea that you'll back down about
> having your dog with you when you choose to, or need to. (Not sure how to
> tell you to do that). And it's kind of a slippery slope. I had this issue
> with my family for awhile. "Well, you left the dog home this last time.... I
> know family's different than work, but still some of the same dynamics can
> come into play. Hopefully someone else just be able to articulate what I'm
> trying to say in a better wan.  Debby and Nova
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