[nagdu] Perceptions

[larry d keeler]

No Buddy, you just want to see what the dog sniffs out! They sure find
interesting things to smell! 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan via
nagdu
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:33 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Buddy Brannan
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Perceptions

No Dan, you're wrong. We all hate dogs. Some of us eat dogs for breakfast. 

Seriously, of course there's something to this, but I don't understand why
it has to be "this is better" and "That is worse". Sure, sometimes it really
is "I want to get where I'm going more efficiently". Or maybe it''s "I
really like working with dogs". Or maybe it's "Watching their little minds
work is fascinating." Maybe to some it really is "It just works better for
me". None of those things make it intrensically "better" though. For some,
"I get to my destination faster" may be a distinct disavdantage, because
some people like knowing about all of the things in their environment that a
dog would consider to be obstacles. Conversely, "I know that I need to cross
at the crosswalk, marked by this pole after the third sidewalk" may be a
distinct disadvantage to some who don't care about sidewalks or poles and
just want to go. Neither is intrensically "better". 



--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194 
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy at brannan.name




> On Jun 20, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Dan Weiner via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Well perhaps it's a generational thing...when I got a dog I wanted to be
> more independent and hoped that a dog would help me do this. Now with the
> proliferation of cane training and so on the younger new dog users say
> things like "Oh I can use a cane just fine and I just want to be more
> efficient" or "I want to be faster".  I think guys we should look at
> this...the dog must be doing something for you or you wouldn't have wanted
> to get one or keep using one.
> 
> There must be something pretty damend good about a dog if despite all of
the
> negatives gleefully listed over the last day, we still have them and at
> least I, since I can only speak for myself, enjoy using one.
> Now I'm definitely over quota, keep out of trouble, guys.
> 
> Dan W.
> dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:13 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Perceptions
> 
> I see your point, but I think the two things are different. Well, most of
> the time they are. Often people go into training centers and they honestly
> cannot do a thing. They can't read, they can't go catch a bus, they can't
> write, you know. So they did get their life back. I got a dog and I was
> independent when I was using a cane, yet people are convinced that now I
> have the dog I am more independent. Well, it is probably true for some but
> was not so for me.
> I may have overdone it, too. LOL.
> Cindy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Weiner via
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 2:03 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Dan Weiner
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Perceptions
> 
> Well, I've heard the same thing from folks who graduate NFB training
> centers, I swear one man says,  "I got my life back". So what do we
> conclude?
> Perhaps of course some of it is the misconceptions about guide dogs or the
> self-promotion of the guide dog training centers...but maybe also anything
> that allows you a feeling of freedom that you can do what you want to do
or
> hope that you can might cause a similar reaction.
> And I think I've written more than five messages today, so sorry if I did
go
> over my quota.
> 
> Dan W.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaye Kipp via
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:48 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Kaye Kipp
> Subject: [nagdu] Perceptions
> 
> Hi.
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I've actually heard some guide dog users say,, "I have my
> dog; now I got my life back.  At one of my guide dog graduations, at least
> one person said that.  I think this perpetuates the perception that guide
> dogs are super heroes.  Sometimes they are; like the one who got between
the
> user and the buss, but using a guide dog is all about team work.  Without
a
> good handler, it goes without saying that the guide dog doesn't work well.

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