[nagdu] the public and dog breeds
Tracy Carcione
carcione at access.net
Fri Jun 26 13:21:00 UTC 2015
I once heard a kid say my shepherd was a giant Chihuahua! Well, the ears
are right, I guess.
Tracy
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Pawpower Pack
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] the public and dog breeds
I was with Laveau, my doberman mix in the store about a month ago. Some man
walks up to me and says "That's a beautiful golden retriever."
Laveau is black, with a rust mask and has very short dobe fur and the
classic dobe structure.
I replied and said she was a Doberman and he asked me if I was sure! Then
repeated that she looked like a golden to him.
OY! I wanted to ask if perhaps he could benefit from a partnership with a
guide dog himself because obviously he was blind.
People have asked if Soleil my yellow lab is a pit bull.
It takes all kinds, I guess.
Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com
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> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Valerie Gibson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Julie,
>
> I completely know what you mean. People ask if Zion is a german shepherd
mix, or a husky mix. popped do make themselves look dumb when they say it
as if it's fact like, "That's a husky". One guy actually wanted to argue
with me on the breed of my dog.
>
> But my favorite is when people ask me if he's a wolf. I truly want to
> say yes to that. :)
>
> I did have a child mistake him for the easter bunny once. That was quite
amusing.
>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Valerie wrote:
>> *In short, some people in the public are not that bright.*
>>
>> Oh my goodness yes! I had a Beagle, a horrible and aggressive Beagle,
when I was in high school. He was accused of being a pit bull fairly
frequently. He was your classic tri color Beagle, but some people are going
to think and say and react in totally off the wall ways.
>>
>> I've had people ask if Monty is a pit bull. He's a lab and Boxer mix and
his head shape is just about as far from a bit bull as you can get. I've
also been asked if he is a Great Dane and other random breeds. I don't get
why people don't leave off the random guessing and just ask what breed the
dog is. It would avoid a lot of looking stupid.
>>
>> Oh, and I had someone tell me they had a lab at home that looked just
like Jetta. She's my Doberman. Never a dull moment!
>>
>> Julie
>> Courage to Dare: A Blind Woman's Quest to Train her Own Guide Dog is now
available! Get the book here:
>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QXZSMOC
>> -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Gibson via nagdu
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 1:55 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Valerie Gibson
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] the public and dog breeds
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I can understand the thing about the compliments. When I'm out with my
friend, who has a lab guide dog, my akita receives the bulk of the
compliments, and then my friend's dog receives compliments on her behavior.
>>
>> Because people's first sense is visual, they complement Zion on his coat
color. Having never seen color, it is difficult for me to truly get it, but
people stop mid conversation to look over and tell me, "He's beautiful." If
we do stop and talk, they will then notice my friend's dog because she's
more calm, not to say my dog is crazy hyper, but he's still got that puppy
energy about him.
>>
>> In regards to dog breeds, I will sometimes get comments on how friendly
he is for an akita. I don't get them often because most people that we
encounter are not familiar with the breed.
>>
>> This is for the person who said they jokingly wished they had a pit bull
so that the public would give them some peace.
>>
>> Just because you have a dog who is more prone to aggression doesn't mean
people will leave you in peace. People will make the mistake, no matter
what the breed, that your dog is friendly because it is a service dog. The
people who do make this mistake, I try to correct. I don't want the public
thinking that service dogs can be threatening, but nor do i want the public
thinking that a dog wouldn't hurt them because he's a service dog.
>>
>> Here's an example. I was talking to a passer-by while on the way back
to my apartment. As we were talking, a guy comes up and starts talking to
my dog. To my surprise, Zion started backing away from this guy, who
proceeded to keep walking toward my dog. Before i could say anything, the
lady told the man that he was making the dog uncomfortable and he needed to
stop approaching the dog.
>>
>> The man said, "oh he's friendly. he's got a harness on."
>>
>> The lady and i tried to explain to the man that, though he is a working
dog, he is an akita first, and while service dogs are trained to be
socialable, it is a very dangerous assumption to make, especially if you
know what this breed was bred for, as the man did.
>>
>> I firmly believe that dogs are what they are raised to be, but I also
don't ignore breeds.
>>
>> For the person who said they wished they had a pit bull, though it was
joking, I don't think the public, in general, would think, "oh, it's a pit
bull. let's leave it alone."
>>
>> For those of us who have met really good pits, I would know that the pit
bull might be friendly, but I'd never assume the dog is friendly.
>>
>> I know this borders on the fact that the man should not have tried to pet
my dog anyway, but i think a little extra caution is needed when you're
approaching a dog who you know was bred for hunting and protection work, and
when the dog is making obvious signs of not wanting to go near you.
>>
>> In short, some people in the public are not that bright.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:39 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> As someone who plans on sticking to goldens, I suspect I'll always
>>> be flooded by the public. The compliments, comments, and questions
>>> are never-ending. Most of the time, I just ignore it, or politely
>>> thank them for compliments on how beautiful my dog is or how
>>> well-behaved he is. He usually keeps to himself, but people still
>>> get curious, chatty, and handzy. I think the amount of attention
>>> your dog attracts has more to do with curiosity and ignorance than the
dog's behavior.
>>>
>>> The people who are fearful of dogs are fearful no matter what, in my
>>> experience. Some people just see a huge dog, and are afraid
>>> regardless of breed. One time, I was playing with the Golden Guy at
>>> a park. I took him down a slide, and at the bottom, I lost the
>>> leash. He took off to say hello to a Dachshund. The poor dog owners
>>> were frightened by this, so they left with their dog. I don't blame
>>> them. They knew nothing about my dog.
>>>
>>> About dogs being mistaken for female. I think many people assume
>>> lighter colored dogs are girls. My dog is truly golden; he's pretty
>>> blonde. So many people think he's a girl. Also, he has a small head
>>> for a male golden. It's proportionate, yes. But compared to other
>>> male goldens, his head is smaller, so I think that has something to
>>> do with it, too.
>>> --
>>> Raven
>>> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
>>> www.1am-editing.com
>>>
>>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>>> have or what you do.
>>>
>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>
>>>> On 6/24/15, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Dan, that's really funny! :D
>>>> Yesterday, even the vet said "She" at first. There must be
>>>> something about Taylor but I don't know what it is.
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dan Weiner via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 2:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] the public and dog breeds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Or what about the bizarre conversation I had the other day:
>>>>> "Is he a girl dog?"
>>>>> Dan: "he's a boy yes"
>>>>>
>>>>> "she's so beautiful."
>>>>>
>>>>> You've gotta' smile at that one--lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan W. and the Parker hound
>>>>>
>>>>> dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa
>>>>> via nagdu
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:09 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Cc: Lisa
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] the public and dog breeds
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Pam and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I often wish (jokingly of course) I had a pitbull or another breed
>>>>> that's sadly seen by the public as dangerous. So they would let me
>>>>> and my dog have our peace.
>>>>> I have a lab whose face looks, according to many sighted people
>>>>> including
>>>>>
>>>>> my
>>>>> guide dog trainer, like a puppy's face. Additionally, he's so
>>>>> friendly and wagging his tail all the time. Almost every member of
>>>>> the public wants to say hi to him and says: "She's still young,
>>>>> isn't she?" So apart from the fact that he'll be 4 in November,
>>>>> really everybody thinks he's a female.
>>>>> A
>>>>> female puppy with a heart full of joy. I sometimes hate the
>>>>> public. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lisa
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Pam via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: "Pam" <pamyoung80 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:17 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] the public and dog breeds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi all. just going back to something which was discussed on
>>>>>> another thread about the public's interaction with guide dogs.
>>>>>> just curious if any of u think it depends on the breed of dog u
>>>>>> have and the amount of attention the dog gets from the public? i
>>>>>> have a couple of friends that went from having lab/retriever
>>>>>> crosses to shepherd/retrievers and they have both said people
>>>>>> pretty much stay away from them now they have
>>>>>> shepherd/retrievers. that they seem to b more wary of them. i
>>>>>> also have a friend that has a golden/doodle and she is constantly
>>>>>> being stopped by people. so i'm interested to hear your thoughts
>>>>>> on this " :) Sent from my iPhone
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