[nagdu] my dog growls at other dogs.

[Daryl Marie]

I do agree. I don't care what school people get their dogs from; the school might give you a foundation (good, bad, adequate or otherwise), but what YOU do with YOUR dog reflectson that.  If a guide dog goes up and sniffs another service dog, it is the handler's responsibility to deal with it... and a "great" school alone does not a good handler make.

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- From: Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: S L Johnson <sljohnson25 at comcast.net>, NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 00:55:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [nagdu] my dog growls at other dogs.  As long as your dog controls herself, there is nothing wrong. That handler had no room to talk seeing as his dog went up to yours. I too have a dog that can get vocal in harness at times, though it is inappropriate. Of course, I have a quick fix for the behavior. On 3/4/15, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hello: > > It is good that your dog will remain under good control even though she's > growling. You are doing the best you can to explain to the other handler > why your dog is growling. However, keep in mind how afraid and stressed the > other handler is thinking their dog is at risk of being attacked. When > we're afraid, we can often react by saying harsh words about your dog and > the school. I have experienced both sides of this kind of situation. As a > result of being attacked, I've had two of my guide dogs develop a problem of > growling or barking if another dog got too close to them. In 1985 Heidi, a > tiny little shepherd was frequently attacked by a large shepherd guide dog > at an agency for the blind. After that she would growl and back away and > hide behind me when other dogs got too close to her. The trainers and I > worked very hard trying to build up her confidence around other dogs but, it > really didn't help. Although she was acting out of fear not aggression, the > school and I finally felt it was best to retire her. It was unfortunate > because Heidi was only five years old and her work was amazing and in all > other ways she was the perfect dog. The school felt it looked bad for them > and all guide dog teams. In 2005 my little golden, Cinnamon was attacked by > a very large dark colored dog at the bus stop. After that she would bark if > she saw large dark colored dog coming near her. I didn't have to retire her > but, I always had to be very alert if we were around other dogs. With Tara, > after she was attacked she didn't bark or growl but, she was always nervous > and very stressed out around dogs she didn't know. I know each handler has > to make the decision that they feel is right but, any kind of behavior from > one guide dog does make a negative impression for all guide dog teams. > > Sandra and Eva > > -----Original Message----- > From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vivianna via > nagdu > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:56 PM > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users > Subject: [nagdu] my dog growls at other dogs. > > here is the situation that i have with my current dog. > she is a very fit 78 pound 6 year old german shepherd. > if she is lying under my seat, for example, and, along comes another guide > dog and, the handler lets their dog get into my dog's face, she will growl > very loudly. she doesn't move but, she sounds like she is going to eat them > up. > i was on the bus the other day and, this person got on with another guide > dog. i heard it coming and was aware of what my dog was doing, she was > under my seat. so, this other dog comes over and starts getting into my > dog's face, and, she growled. i said, your dog is sniffing mine, that's why > she growled. > he proceeded to ask me where i got her and, when i told him, he started > bashing the school. > lol. > i, did not say, hey, why did your seeing eye dog come over here and bother > my pilot dog in the first place. > now, if the dogs keep to themselves, she doesn't do anything but look. it's > only when she feels they are getting into her space. and, frankly, i don't > blame her. > i do think though, that many folks would think that my dog is being > aggressive. > just an interesting situation. > > Vivianna > > > _______________________________________________ > nagdu mailing list > nagdu at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sljohnson25%40comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > nagdu mailing list > nagdu at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ravend729%40gmail.com >  -- Raven You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you have or what you do. Naturally-reared guide dogs https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs _______________________________________________ nagdu mailing list nagdu at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/crazymusician%40shaw.ca