[nagdu] collars

[Daryl Marie]

Raven,
You did a great job describing the martingale collars.  I was horrified the first time I saw a choke chain, and to this day they make me queasy.

I completely agree that the Halti is a great tool.  I bought one instead of a Gentle Leader (by mistake, actually), but I like the more control the Halti gives me.

Ironically, I don't clip the leash to the Halti loop under the chin; both the lease and the Halti clip share the D-ring on her collar.  For whatever reason, this works best for Jenny.  The leash is very heavy, and she's not a fan of it clipped to the Halti. But I do use it in high-distraction environments - pet stores, the vet - and I keep it in my purse.

Daryl

 Original Message ----- From: Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: Pam <pamyoung80 at gmail.com>, NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:29:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] collars  I forgot, Guiding Eyes also gives each student a Halti, which is a different sort of head collar. These collars are good for highly distracted dogs, or highly distracting situations. For instance, my dog has a moderate-to-high dog distraction, so whenever we go places where there is a doggie population, I put on his Halti. It also is a tool for those dogs who scavenge, or are too nosy. The Halti is the gentle leader's strappier cousin. The Halti is a head collar which snaps around the neck and has cheek straps connecting to a loop going over the nose. There is also a strap that runs under the chin where you clip the leash, and a strap with a clip that you connect to the working collar. I prefer the Halti over the gentle leader because the leash is right under the dog's chin, allowing you to know exactly what your dog is doing or where he is looking. A slip collar and martingale collar are 2 different collars. A slip chain is a full length of chain with a ring at either end. You make the collar by pulling part of the chain through one ring till you have a complete circle that you slide over the dog's head. The live ring is connected to the leash and moves outward from the dog's neck, while the dead ring moves over the chain inward toward the dog's neck. These collars are also called choke chains because nothing controls how tightly the collar can be pulled. It can pull tighter than the width of the dog's neck, which obviously chokes the dog. If a dog pulls hard on the leash while wearing this collar, the dog ends up choking himself. A half-check martingale collar is a strip of nylon culminating in a dead ring at either end, and a short loop of chain connecting the 2 dead rings. There is one live ring on the loop of chain. This collar can only be pulled until the 2 dead rings meet, and because there are 2 dead rings moving inward toward the dog's neck, pressure is distributed evenly around the dog's neck, rather than cinching in from one point on the throat. I'm horrible at describing things, so hopefully someone can provide clarification if what I just wrote was completely mind-bending. -- Raven You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you have or what you do. Naturally-reared guide dogs https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs On 3/19/15, Pam via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > thank u rox. what do u mean by owner trained? does that mean u trained her > yourself? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 19 Mar 2015, at 13:45, The Pawpower Pack via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Pam, >> Welcome to the list! I'm Rox and my dog is a yellow lab named Soleil. She >> is owner trained. >> She wears a cloth half check with the clip. I do this because if she were >> ever to get caught with her collar on something, I like the clip to unhook >> her quickly. Hope you enjoy the list! >> >> Rox and the kitchen Bitches: >> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil >> Pawpower4me at gmail.com >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 7:19 AM, Mária Orovčíková via nagdu >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Pam, >>> I am Maria from Slovakia (Central Europe) with guide Dog Demi - black >>> lab. >>> The school give us a collar, short leash, flexy leash and a harness of >>> course. >>> Some dog handlers are given gentle lead. >>> By the way, what is slip collar like? >>> I think we have it here, just not sure what type of collar it is. >>> Thanks. >>> With kind regards >>> Maria >>>> On 19. 3. 2015 12:31, Pam via nagdu wrote: >>>> nice to meet u. u r the first guide dog owner i've met from sweeden. >>>> what sort of dog do u have? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 19 Mar 2015, at 11:25, Leye-Shprintse Öberg via nagdu >>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> BS'D >>>>> >>>>> Pam, >>>>> >>>>> I'm from Sweden and here it depends on what the dog's instructor has >>>>> used. Every guide dog handler gets a 'play collar', but my regular >>>>> collar was a slip collar. Today, I use a martinale collar when we're >>>>> working and my dog wears a flat collar otherwise. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> Lesholom, >>>>> Leye-Shprintse Öberg >>>>> Stockholm, Suède >>>>> leyeshprintse at ymail.com >>>>> http://leyeshprintse.com >>>>> Envoyé de mon iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Le 19 mar 2015 à 10:09, Pam via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> hi everyone. i am just curious as to what sort of collars u get from >>>>> your schools for your dogs? here in ireland we get a half check collar >>>>> and also a play collar which is just a nylon collar with a bell >>>>> attached for when the dog is having a run in the park or whatever. for >>>>> those of u that use the half checks do u leave them on the dog all the >>>>> time? also which type of half check do u use the 1 that slips over the >>>>> head or the 1 with the quick release clip? here we r given the type >>>>> that slip over tha head. thanks :) >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nagdu mailing list >>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nagdu: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/leyeshprintse%40ymail.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nagdu mailing list >>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nagdu: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/pamyoung80%40gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nagdu mailing list >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nagdu: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/maria.orovcikova%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nagdu mailing list >>> nagdu at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nagdu: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/pawpower4me%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nagdu mailing list >> nagdu at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nagdu: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/pamyoung80%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nagdu mailing list > nagdu at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ravend729%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ nagdu mailing list nagdu at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/crazymusician%40shaw.ca