[nagdu] it's illegal to use a crate or tiedown?

Elise Berkley bravaegf at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 27 03:34:52 UTC 2015


The only time I crate Becky is when I leave her home alone for about an hour or so.  Other than that, she is on a double tie-down in the house.  Or, sometimes, she gets free run.  I have only had her for a little over a month and that trust has to be given.
Elise and Becky

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:05 AM
To: Vivianna; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] it's illegal to use a crate or tiedown?

Laws and perceptions change too.  I learned to give very hard leash corrections with my first few dogs, and my second dog needed them.
Now most schools in the U.S. use other techniques because the general public reports us as dog abusers if they see us use a leash correction.  In the future, we may not crate our dogs either.  I love having perspectives from people around the world.  It makes me think about what I am doing and should I make changes. I never crated any dog until my 3rd dog was several years old and decided to take all of my husband's pants off the rack where they were hanging because she did not like being left at home.  I have a crate for my dog but don't use it very often.

On 3/26/15, Vivianna via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> wow!  really!
> is this really true?
> so, what do you do if your dog is not trustworthy loose in your home?  
> or, if you are in a hotel room?
> i won’t even get into the reasons that i feel a crate is a fine thing.
>
> Vivianna
>
>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Leye-Shprintse Öberg via nagdu 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> BS'D
>>
>> Sadly, I think some people have been a bit too prejudiced in this 
>> topic. I think that we need to remember that Europe and the Americas 
>> have different cultures; what you see as normal in your own country 
>> could be illegal in another one. As an example, it looks like it's 
>> normal to tiedown and crate your guide dogs in the States and Canada; 
>> in Sweden, it's illegal and I first heard about it when I talked to 
>> some American handlers. I'd never do it myself, but I don't juge you who do it.
>>
>> Now to the question. As Mária, Pam and Lisa, guide dog handlers 
>> aren't taught to pick up after their dogs in Sweden either; we're 
>> exepted by the law. Personally, I learned to pick up after my dog 
>> with help of a Canadian guide dog handler and my twin sister. As I 
>> see it, I think that we'll be taught how to do it, but since I'm in 
>> the minority of guide dog handlers who pick up after my dog, I think 
>> the fight is already lost. We've more important things to change, I think. Okay?
>>
>> And Mária, our dogs are only taught to relieêe on grass. Oh Lisa, my 
>> dog was also a bush relieving dog. She always looked for the bushes 
>> and dragged me there to relieve herself. It took some weeks for her 
>> to feel confident on plain grass. Now, I'm teaching her to relieve on concrete.
>> She's so stuborn, but I'll win this fight also. *LOL*
>>
>> LeSholom,
>> Leye-Shprintse and Hera <3
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