[nagdu] Guide dog users, get ready for it...

Fri Mar 27 16:12:56 UTC 2015

I agree. This legislation may very well come to affect dog guide users. It's a slippery slope. We should oppose it along with the populations directly affected. Thanks to Buddy for making us aware of this preposterous proposal.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A 
Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

> On Mar 27, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Aleeha Dudley via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Muslims are offended by dogs, as are some Hindu. So, to say that
> religion will not affect you with your dog, is, quite frankly,
> preposterous.
> 
>> On 3/27/15, Marsha Drenth via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Friendly reminder to all, unless this news article pertains to guide dogs,
>> then the article does not belong on the list. there will be no discussion
>> about religion, unless it pertains to our guide dogs. Let's stay on topic,
>> okay?
>> thank you,
>> 
>> Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator
>> email: marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>> Sent with my IPhone
>> Please note that this email communication has been sent using my iPhone. As
>> such, I may have used dictation and had made attempts to mitigate errors.
>> Please do not be hesitant to ask for clarification as necessary.
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:21 AM, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hello:
>>> 
>>> I live in Indiana and I am not worried.  This law was to protect business
>>> owners from having to serve customers or do anything that goes against
>>> their
>>> religious beliefs.  For example, a bakery not wanting to bake cakes for a
>>> same-sex marriage.  In this     country we should still be able to
>>> exercise
>>> our religious freedom.  My access with a guide dog isn't going to offend
>>> anyone's religious beliefs.  If it does, then I'll deal with it.
>>> 
>>> Sandra and Eva
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Buddy Brannan via nagdu
>>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:19 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Guide dog users, get ready for it...
>>> 
>>> At least if you live in Indiana. While this doesn't address us in
>>> specific,
>>> be ready for denial of service on religious grounds. Yes, it's probable
>>> that
>>> a challenge to our rights wouldn't stand up (federal law probably wins),
>>> but
>>> that doesn't mean it *couldn't* happen.
>>> 
>>> ...And then they came for me.
>>> 
>>> http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/indiana-gov-mike-pence-signs-gay-discrimination-bill
>>> 
>>> Indiana Just Made It Easier to Discriminate Against Gay Peopleâ?"And Just
>>> About Anyone Else
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Over loud objections from Indiana business leaders, GOP Gov. Mike Pence
>>> signed a bill into law Thursday that protects business owners who refuse
>>> service to gay and lesbian customers on religious grounds. Organizers of
>>> mass events in Indianapolis, including the NCAA's Final Four, immediately
>>> decried the law as discriminatory, and suggested that the bill might cause
>>> 
>>> the state to lose out on future business.
>>> 
>>> The law allows Indianans who are sued for discrimination to cite their
>>> religious beliefs as a defense. It applies to a broad range of situations.
>>> 
>>> An employer who refused to hire Jewish employees could cite his religious
>>> beliefs as a defense against discrimination lawsuits. So could a landlord
>>> who refused to rent to Muslims, or a business that refused to serve
>>> atheists.
>>> 
>>> At a news conference that followed the private signing, Pence explaining
>>> he
>>> signed the bill "because I support the freedom of religion for every
>>> Hoosier
>>> of every faithâ?¦Today, many people of faith feel their religious liberty
>>> is
>>> under attack by government action." He cited the University of Notre
>>> Dame's
>>> fight to prevent its employees from accessing birth control as an example.
>>> 
>>> Pence may have signed the bill as a way to better position himself for a
>>> run
>>> in the 2016 GOP presidential primaries. Last year, facing opposition from
>>> Democrats and state business leaders, and intense media scrutiny, Pence
>>> and
>>> conservative Republicans abandoned a bill that would have banned same-sex
>>> marriage in Indiana. But the bill Pence signed Thursday drew much less
>>> organized opposition and press.
>>> 
>>> Pence disputed the idea that this latest bill allowed discrimination. "If
>>> I
>>> thought it legalized discrimination in any way in Indiana, I would have
>>> vetoed it," he said.
>>> 
>>> Lawmakers have introduced billspermitting businesses to discriminate
>>> against
>>> LGBT individuals in almost two dozen states this year. They are part of a
>>> wave of anti-LGBT bills that has crested as the Supreme Court prepares to
>>> rule on whether same-sex marriage should be legal throughout the county.
>>> The
>>> decision will likely come down in June.
>>> 
>>> After Pence signed the bill, Jason Collins, the first openly gay NBA
>>> player
>>> before he retired last year, sounded off on Twitter:
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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