[nagdu] Guide dog users, get ready for it...

[Aaron Cannon]

The LDS Church (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) does
have a policy to allow access to folks accompanied by service animals
in chapel buildings, including when church services are taking place.

Otherwise, I don't think it would matter that your local LDS Church
allows access to the Boy Scouts, as they are likely an exempt
organization as well, being a private club.  In other words, if a
church hosts the Boy Scouts, it probably doesn't effect their ADA
status.

Aaron

On 3/27/15, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I think that churches don't have to allow someone with a guide dog to
> worship there, but they can't prevent you from voting or attending other
> nonchurch type functions.
> We have an LDS church near our house. They are also the local polling place,
> and the Girl Scouts (as do the Boy Scouts) use the church for meetings.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sheila Leigland
> via nagdu
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 12:36 PM
> To: Tara Briggs; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dog users, get ready for it...
>
> unfortunately, you are correct and I'll always choose to attend church where
> my dog is welcome.
>
> On 3/27/2015 9:08 AM, Tara Briggs via nagdu wrote:
>> Hi all, thanks for the article! It was very interesting. It is my
>> understanding that churches already have the right to refuse access to a
>> service dog. I live in Utah and it has happened to me. It is my
>> understanding that the Americans with disabilities act does not cover
>> churches. I would love to hear any thoughts on the situation.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:19 AM, Buddy Brannan via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> At least if you live in Indiana. While this doesn't address us in
>>> specific, be ready for denial of service on religious grounds. Yes, it's
>>> probable that a challenge to our rights wouldn't stand up (federal law
>>> probably wins), but that doesn't mean it *couldn't* happen.
>>>
>>> ...And then they came for me.
>>>
>>> http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/indiana-gov-mike-pence-si
>>> gns-gay-discrimination-bill
>>>
>>> Indiana Just Made It Easier to Discriminate Against Gay People—And
>>> Just About Anyone Else
>>>
>>>
>>> Over loud objections from Indiana business leaders, GOP Gov. Mike Pence
>>> signed a bill into law Thursday that protects business owners who refuse
>>> service to gay and lesbian customers on religious grounds. Organizers of
>>> mass events in Indianapolis, including the NCAA's Final Four, immediately
>>> decried the law as discriminatory, and suggested that the bill might
>>> cause the state to lose out on future business.
>>>
>>> The law allows Indianans who are sued for discrimination to cite their
>>> religious beliefs as a defense. It applies to a broad range of
>>> situations. An employer who refused to hire Jewish employees could cite
>>> his religious beliefs as a defense against discrimination lawsuits. So
>>> could a landlord who refused to rent to Muslims, or a business that
>>> refused to serve atheists.
>>>
>>> At a news conference that followed the private signing, Pence explaining
>>> he signed the bill "because I support the freedom of religion for every
>>> Hoosier of every faith…Today, many people of faith feel their religious
>>> liberty is under attack by government action." He cited the University of
>>> Notre Dame's fight to prevent its employees from accessing birth control
>>> as an example.
>>>
>>> Pence may have signed the bill as a way to better position himself for a
>>> run in the 2016 GOP presidential primaries. Last year, facing opposition
>>> from Democrats and state business leaders, and intense media scrutiny,
>>> Pence and conservative Republicans abandoned a bill that would have
>>> banned same-sex marriage in Indiana. But the bill Pence signed Thursday
>>> drew much less organized opposition and press.
>>>
>>> Pence disputed the idea that this latest bill allowed discrimination. "If
>>> I thought it legalized discrimination in any way in Indiana, I would have
>>> vetoed it," he said.
>>>
>>> Lawmakers have introduced billspermitting businesses to discriminate
>>> against LGBT individuals in almost two dozen states this year. They are
>>> part of a wave of anti-LGBT bills that has crested as the Supreme Court
>>> prepares to rule on whether same-sex marriage should be legal throughout
>>> the county. The decision will likely come down in June.
>>>
>>> After Pence signed the bill, Jason Collins, the first openly gay NBA
>>> player before he retired last year, sounded off on Twitter:
>>>
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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