[nagdu] clarification on religious exemptions

[Marianne Denning]

Since others have stated that if it is something open to the general
public you should have been able to attend.  I would also say that if
any of us have been denied access to a religious activity because of
our dog we could always go to a higher level of the religious group or
go to the media, as a last resort.  If a religious structure is part
of a larger organization or denomination go up the ladder. Make sure
that is the philosophy of the organization and not just that local
affiliate. I am a full supporter of 1st amendment rights for everyone
but we don't have to be passive in our response.

On 3/28/15, Tara Briggs via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have a question, around Christmas time of 2013 I went to A concert in
> downtown Salt Lake City. The building was not a church but it was owned by a
> church. I was told that because of previous negative experiences, I and my
> service dog would not be permitted to sit with everyone else. I could either
> sit in a room apart from everyone else and listen to the concert on video,
> or I could not attend. We chose to leave. Concert was free and open to the
> public. There were thousands of people attending. It is my understanding
> that the church had the right to do this. Any thoughts?
> Thanks
> Tara
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Marion Gwizdala via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>    It is my understanding that building codes and fire regulations do
>> not exempt private organizations or religious institutions from their
>> requirements. The ADA does specifically exempt them. As for whether a
>> church
>> must comply with the ADA if they invite the general public, it seems as
>> if
>> they must during that time when the church is open as a place of public
>> accommodation. This would likely be the case for the choir competition or
>> if, say, the church were to host a public forum open to the public.
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Craig Heaps
>> via
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:56 AM
>> To: Debby Phillips; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>> Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] clarification on religious exemptions
>>
>> So here's my question abuot churches and the ADA.  Is there anything in
>> the
>> fedral exemption that keeps states from requiging essecntially the same
>> compliance as any other institution/business that welcomes the public in?
>>
>> Can a state pass a law requiring wheelchair ramps or prohibiting the
>> exclusion of service animals?
>>
>> Can a local government put requirements in its building code for the
>> equvialent of ADA compliant adaptions?
>>
>> Craig and Chase
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Debby Phillips via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Dailyah" <dailyahpatt at yahoo.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the National
>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>;
>> <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>; <buddy at brannan.name>; <nagdu at nfbnet.org>;
>> <dsykora29 at gmail.com>; <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] clarification on religious exemptions
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for the information.  I kind of thought that was the way it is.
>>> Fortunately, my parish is fine with my dog-in fact, there are people
>>> praying right now that I get a quicker date for class.  Lol.  I love it.
>>> And if I don't get an earlier date, that I can be peaceful with that.
>>> Peace and blessings,    Debby waiting for N D (New Dog).
>>>
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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