[nagdu] clarification on religious exemptions

Applebutter Hill applebutterhill at gmail.com
Sun Mar 29 21:11:58 UTC 2015


Tara,
If it was a concert, not a church service, it was not legal for them to
discriminate against you. I

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara Briggs via
nagdu
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:51 PM
To: Marion Gwizdala; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] clarification on religious exemptions

I have a question, around Christmas time of 2013 I went to A concert in
downtown Salt Lake City. The building was not a church but it was owned by a
church. I was told that because of previous negative experiences, I and my
service dog would not be permitted to sit with everyone else. I could either
sit in a room apart from everyone else and listen to the concert on video,
or I could not attend. We chose to leave. Concert was free and open to the
public. There were thousands of people attending. It is my understanding
that the church had the right to do this. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Tara

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> On Mar 28, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Marion Gwizdala via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
>    It is my understanding that building codes and fire regulations do
> not exempt private organizations or religious institutions from their
> requirements. The ADA does specifically exempt them. As for whether a
> church must comply with the ADA if they invite the general public, it
> seems as if they must during that time when the church is open as a
> place of public accommodation. This would likely be the case for the
> choir competition or if, say, the church were to host a public forum open
to the public.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Craig Heaps
> via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:56 AM
> To: Debby Phillips; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
> Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] clarification on religious exemptions
>
> So here's my question abuot churches and the ADA.  Is there anything
> in the fedral exemption that keeps states from requiging essecntially
> the same compliance as any other institution/business that welcomes the
public in?
> Can a state pass a law requiring wheelchair ramps or prohibiting the
> exclusion of service animals?
>
> Can a local government put requirements in its building code for the
> equvialent of ADA compliant adaptions?
>
> Craig and Chase
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Debby Phillips via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Dailyah" <dailyahpatt at yahoo.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>;
> <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>; <buddy at brannan.name>; <nagdu at nfbnet.org>;
> <dsykora29 at gmail.com>; <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] clarification on religious exemptions
>
>
>> Thanks for the information.  I kind of thought that was the way it is.
>> Fortunately, my parish is fine with my dog-in fact, there are people
>> praying right now that I get a quicker date for class.  Lol.  I love it.
>> And if I don't get an earlier date, that I can be peaceful with that.
>> Peace and blessings,    Debby waiting for N D (New Dog).
>>
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