[nagdu] update

Wed May 27 12:18:16 UTC 2015

Hello,

This is just another tool that an individual uses to control unwanted 
behavior.  I wouldn't use it, but nobody asks me to use it...Martingale 
doesn't always work I find, and while most dogs respond to the gentle 
leader positively, it just doesn't work for some dogs.  Still, it seems 
like those people that are resorting to spikes are getting too much dog 
and possibly can't handle what they are given...I could be way dead 
wrong, but that's what it seems like to me.

Thanks, and here's hoping you get things figured out soon.

On 5/27/2015 07:13, Abigail Bolling via nagdu wrote:
> Wouldn't a gentle leader or a martingale do the same thing? Without digging spikes into the chest of the dog? Just a thought.
>
> Abigail Bolling
>
> Wright State University-2019: Social Work
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>> On May 27, 2015, at 5:34 AM, Amber M via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Still issued to every grad but not required to be used unless instructed to do so. Will say I was instructed to use mine and did so in class but have removed and replaced with the plain piece of leather. Not that I enjoyed using it at all but just saying once home can find other ways of dealing with the pulling.
>>
>> Description is correct though.
>>
>> Amber
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 26, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Buddy Brannan via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> A Pilot grad can correct me if I'm wrong, but.
>>>
>>> Pilot's harnesses have a feature that, to my knowledge, no other guide dog school's equipment has. (Well, the leashes do, too...the leashes are a bit longer than most, and can be made into an impromptu muzzle.) Anyway, there are two snaps on the chest strap. Normally, a piece of leather is snapped in between them, straight across. However, one can take that out and snap into its place a set of blunt prongs. I think the purpose of these is to discourage the dog from excessive/too hard of a pull. I believe these were issued at one time to all grads as a matter of course, but I don't think they are anymore, except in specific circumstances and if a trainer thinks a dog needs them very specifically. Pilot grads, please correct any factual errors on my part, but I *think* this is what Abby's talking about.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>> On May 26, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Shannon Dyer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Abby,
>>>>
>>>> What’s a chest pad? I’ve never heard of it.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with everything. Waiting can be torture.
>>>>
>>>> Shannon and the Acelet
>>>>> On May 26, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Abigail Bolling via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Well, I have a friend with me now, and we went on a walk on Saturday. A pretty long walk… (about 3 miles to be exact.)
>>>>> She saw first hand my problems with Jada.
>>>>> An update about Leader. They want to evaluate Jada. I have called and told them that taking Jada to re-evaluate and return her to me (once again) will not be a good idea. They’ve done this once with Her and she did not trust me afterward. I had to restart the bonding process, and I can’t afford to do that right now. So they are sending a trainer out to me next week.
>>>>> I have spoken with Pilot and they are willing to accept me after I have a physical done. I have told pilot that I would attend their school as long as I would not be required to use the chest pads, which I do not agree with at all, and a shock collar will never be put on my dog. The student services rep I spoke with said those wouldn’t be a problem, so we’ll see what happens. I am really hoping Leader will kind of, to put it bluntly, step it up a notch because I can’t afford to wait and mess around.
>>>>> So anyway, I’m a little frustrated, Jada’s tired but she still wants to work and becomes a holy terror on four paws, so I work her or else my apartment will get destroyed. But I can personally say, I don’t like this waiting around. Anyway,
>>>>> Another thing with Jada, I found another bump on her leg. About a year and a half or so ago, Jada had to have surgery for a fatty tumor in her leg… Well, it looks like the bump is back. It’s very small and oblong, but it’s harder than the last one. It is just above her scarred area, so it may just be her muscle knotted up from the surgery. To get the last tumor out of her leg, the vet had to cut and go under her muscle, so it could be that too. But all I see is a bump that isn’t supposed to be there, and wasn’t there a week ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, those are the updates as of now. I’ll let y’all know if there are any other developments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Abby and Princess Jada.
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