[nagdu] update

Wed May 27 20:45:11 UTC 2015

your right all thinbgs don't work for all dogs. Tres absolutely hates a 
gentle leader and will try to jump over your head or out to get away 
from one.

On 5/27/2015 6:18 AM, Nimer Jaber via nagdu wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is just another tool that an individual uses to control unwanted 
> behavior.  I wouldn't use it, but nobody asks me to use 
> it...Martingale doesn't always work I find, and while most dogs 
> respond to the gentle leader positively, it just doesn't work for some 
> dogs.  Still, it seems like those people that are resorting to spikes 
> are getting too much dog and possibly can't handle what they are 
> given...I could be way dead wrong, but that's what it seems like to me.
>
> Thanks, and here's hoping you get things figured out soon.
>
> On 5/27/2015 07:13, Abigail Bolling via nagdu wrote:
>> Wouldn't a gentle leader or a martingale do the same thing? Without 
>> digging spikes into the chest of the dog? Just a thought.
>>
>> Abigail Bolling
>>
>> Wright State University-2019: Social Work
>>
>> "Keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the 
>> music play." (Julie Anderson Diamond)
>>
>>> On May 27, 2015, at 5:34 AM, Amber M via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Still issued to every grad but not required to be used unless 
>>> instructed to do so. Will say I was instructed to use mine and did 
>>> so in class but have removed and replaced with the plain piece of 
>>> leather. Not that I enjoyed using it at all but just saying once 
>>> home can find other ways of dealing with the pulling.
>>>
>>> Description is correct though.
>>>
>>> Amber
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 26, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Buddy Brannan via nagdu 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A Pilot grad can correct me if I'm wrong, but.
>>>>
>>>> Pilot's harnesses have a feature that, to my knowledge, no other 
>>>> guide dog school's equipment has. (Well, the leashes do, too...the 
>>>> leashes are a bit longer than most, and can be made into an 
>>>> impromptu muzzle.) Anyway, there are two snaps on the chest strap. 
>>>> Normally, a piece of leather is snapped in between them, straight 
>>>> across. However, one can take that out and snap into its place a 
>>>> set of blunt prongs. I think the purpose of these is to discourage 
>>>> the dog from excessive/too hard of a pull. I believe these were 
>>>> issued at one time to all grads as a matter of course, but I don't 
>>>> think they are anymore, except in specific circumstances and if a 
>>>> trainer thinks a dog needs them very specifically. Pilot grads, 
>>>> please correct any factual errors on my part, but I *think* this is 
>>>> what Abby's talking about.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 26, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Shannon Dyer via nagdu 
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Abby,
>>>>>
>>>>> What’s a chest pad? I’ve never heard of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with everything. Waiting can be torture.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shannon and the Acelet
>>>>>> On May 26, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Abigail Bolling via nagdu 
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Well, I have a friend with me now, and we went on a walk on 
>>>>>> Saturday. A pretty long walk… (about 3 miles to be exact.)
>>>>>> She saw first hand my problems with Jada.
>>>>>> An update about Leader. They want to evaluate Jada. I have called 
>>>>>> and told them that taking Jada to re-evaluate and return her to 
>>>>>> me (once again) will not be a good idea. They’ve done this once 
>>>>>> with Her and she did not trust me afterward. I had to restart the 
>>>>>> bonding process, and I can’t afford to do that right now. So they 
>>>>>> are sending a trainer out to me next week.
>>>>>> I have spoken with Pilot and they are willing to accept me after 
>>>>>> I have a physical done. I have told pilot that I would attend 
>>>>>> their school as long as I would not be required to use the chest 
>>>>>> pads, which I do not agree with at all, and a shock collar will 
>>>>>> never be put on my dog. The student services rep I spoke with 
>>>>>> said those wouldn’t be a problem, so we’ll see what happens. I am 
>>>>>> really hoping Leader will kind of, to put it bluntly, step it up 
>>>>>> a notch because I can’t afford to wait and mess around.
>>>>>> So anyway, I’m a little frustrated, Jada’s tired but she still 
>>>>>> wants to work and becomes a holy terror on four paws, so I work 
>>>>>> her or else my apartment will get destroyed. But I can personally 
>>>>>> say, I don’t like this waiting around. Anyway,
>>>>>> Another thing with Jada, I found another bump on her leg. About a 
>>>>>> year and a half or so ago, Jada had to have surgery for a fatty 
>>>>>> tumor in her leg… Well, it looks like the bump is back. It’s very 
>>>>>> small and oblong, but it’s harder than the last one. It is just 
>>>>>> above her scarred area, so it may just be her muscle knotted up 
>>>>>> from the surgery. To get the last tumor out of her leg, the vet 
>>>>>> had to cut and go under her muscle, so it could be that too. But 
>>>>>> all I see is a bump that isn’t supposed to be there, and wasn’t 
>>>>>> there a week ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, those are the updates as of now. I’ll let y’all know if 
>>>>>> there are any other developments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abby and Princess Jada.
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