[nagdu] I'm going to get in trouble--dogs in the back

Sherry Gomes sherriola at gmail.com
Wed Sep 9 18:31:32 UTC 2015 

My dogs have always known the difference too. In general, they don't ride in
the front at my feet. with my right knee fused, my leg takes a lot of the
floor space, and I'm already nervous about air bags, since I'm only five
feet tall. I don't want my dog in the path of one of them. I mostly ride
with friends or family who are also dog people and don't mind my dog on the
back seat, or in an SUV in the way back. If was ride with someone I'm not
too familiar with, I have some old sheets I keep around and offer to bring
one to cover their car seat and floor.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Pawpower Pack
via nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 12:23 PM
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Cc: The Pawpower Pack
Subject: Re: [nagdu] I'm going to get in trouble--dogs in the back

I have found that Soleil can generalize. 
She rides on the floor in back with me when we are in taxies, in cars
belonging to my employer, in of course on the bus. 
Otherwise, she rides on the seat.  Most of my friends are ASL interpreters
or people with other jobs that involve driving so like Raven's sister's car,
the floor is a catch-all for everything.  So it's the back seat. 
I do have a seatbelt and we do use it while she's on the seat. 
Soleil is never confused about where to sit and does not try to sit on the
seat in the rare event we take a taxi. 
She is a pro at getting under the airplane seat and does not seem to mind. 


 Rox and the kitchen Bitches: 
Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com
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> On Sep 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Dan:
> 
> I agree with you.  I've had larger dogs and sometimes, they just don't
fit. 
> Eva is small so fits on the floor in most cars but, there have been a few 
> times when I have had to let her on the seat.  In my dad's car, my dogs
are 
> always aloud on the seat.  I was once told by a trainer that it isn't safe

> for the dog to be in the front seat because of the air bags.  If the bag
is 
> activated, it will hit your dog and cause serious injury or possibly
death. 
> I wouldn't want anything to harm my dog so, if I choose to sit in the
front, 
> I put my dog in the back.
> 
> Sandra and Eva
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Dan Weiner via nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:13 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Dan Weiner
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I'm going to get in trouble--dogs in the back
> 
> You guys are really going to lecture me, but I don't care.
> What is the problem you guys have with a dog on the back seat.
> All right, I understand the effort to be considerate in someone elses'
car,
> but frankly some of you folks seem really high strung, uptight and frankly
> you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time worrying about rules and so
> on.
> Sometimes my dog just won't fit on the back seat floor area of the car
he's
> a big guy.
> And if it's the family car, or a friend's car and they don't object, then
> what is the problem?
> 
> Not to mention your dog might be more comfortable on the back seat rather
> than the floor.
> 
> When I first started out I did the front seat with the dog between my legs
> thing and frankly no matter how you slice it, it isn't the most
comfortable
> thing I ever did, guys.
> 
> 
> The same with the almost manic obsession I see with some of my guide dog
> using friends for shoving the dog under the seat in front of the plane no
> matter how much you have to shove the dog anyhow nervous the people I'm
> talking about seem to get if the dog moves an inch or tries to stretch
out.
> 
> Sometimes dogs just take up space and that's the way it goes  friends.
> Obviously all of this is JMO.
> 
> Just wondering.
> Take care, guys.
> 
> 
> Dan the man, Parker the hound
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle
> Cyclorama via nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:00 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Danielle Cyclorama
> Subject: I'm going to get in trouble--dogs in the back
> 
> I have never allowed my dog on the seat and don't plan to do so unless I
> have no other option. I find that my dog has the most room in the back
seat
> when there are only one or two other people in the car. With more people,
we
> are usually better off in the front. Even though I have a larger dog, he
> curls up readily. He usually likes to rest his head on the seat which I
> don't have a problem with.
> 
> If you think about it, it makes sense that the dog is safer on the floor.
If
> you stop short with the dog on the seat and he is thrown forward, there
> isn't much stopping him. If he is on the floor, he is more likely to be
> pushed up against the seat or what ever is in front of him.
> 
> Danielle and Thai
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Buddy Brannan via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Reckon his head should be OK on the seat, which is where your lap is.
Just
> not above that. As for side airbags, I have no idea how they work, I just
> know they exist.
>> 
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:43 AM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess I'm not clear where the airbag comes out in front.  If the
>>> hound is under the dashboard, I guess he's safe, so long as he
>>> doesn't put his head up on the seat? And where do the airbags come out
on
> the side?
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy
>>> Brannan via nagdu
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:26 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Buddy Brannan
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie seat belts
>>> 
>>> You do, if your dog doesn't keep his head down. I recall them telling
>>> us at TSE when I got Chet that the dog should be safe so long as his
>>> head stays down below where the airbag deploys.
>>> 
>>> If this is your concern, however, you maybe don't want to ride in
>>> anything more sophisticated than a riding lawn mower, as now cars
>>> have airbags that pop out of all sorts of places. Front airbags, and
side
> airbags.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If you ride in the front, don't you have to worry about the airbags?
>>>> I always prefer to ride in back, if possible, because the thought of
>>>> an
>>> airbag
>>>> hitting my dog terrifies me.
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>>> via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 10:14 PM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie seat belts
>>>> 
>>>> I always ask to ride in the front if at all possible. Most of the
>>>> people I know who are not twenty somethings are good with that. It
>>>> would be the
>>> best
>>>> for the dog especially with that situation going on. I get it now.
>>>> *smile* Cindy Lou Ray cindyray at gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven
>>>> Tolliver via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 9:11 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie seat belts
>>>> 
>>>> Most of the people I ride with are twenty-somethings with jobs,
>>>> school,
>>> and
>>>> junk all over the God blessed place in their vehicles. For instance,
>>>> my older sister has 3 jobs and goes to school. She practically lives
>>>> out of
>>> her
>>>> car and has stuff for all 3 jobs in there, school books/supplies,
>>>> and garbage. So like her, people just throw stuff on the floor in
>>>> their cars, and there's sometimes junk on the seats, too.
>>>> 
>>>> If I'm in the back of a vehicle where 2 people are in the front
>>>> seats,
>>> it's
>>>> can be practically impossible to put my dog on the floor, depending
>>>> on the height of the folks up front.
>>>> 
>>>> When I ride in Taxis or Uber vehicles, I always have my dog on the
>>>> floor
>>> out
>>>> of consideration for others. I never thought of it as a safety
> precaution.
>>>> 
>>>> I never rode with my dog in the front seat with me. I'll have to try
> that.
>>>> Conveniently, I preferred to enjoy my foot room, but I'd rather my
>>>> dog be safe. This was such an eye-opening experience. Thankfully,
>>>> nothing worse happened.
>>>> --
>>>> Raven
>>>> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
>>>> www.1am-editing.com
>>>> 
>>>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>>>> have
>>> or
>>>> what you do.
>>>> 
>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/8/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Why is it often not possible to have the dog on the floor of the
>>>>> back
>>>> seat.
>>>>> The front does work the best, but often it will work. In fact, for
>>>>> me it mostly does.
>>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven
>>>>> Tolliver via nagdu
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 8:45 PM
>>>>> To: nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Doggie seat belts
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone ever used a doggie seat belt for a pet or guide?
>>>>> I am considering getting one for my dog. Recently, we nearly got
>>>>> into a car accident, and he was flung off the back seat.
>>>>> Is it safest to always have them ride on the floor? I do that
>>>>> whenever possible, but often times, it is not, so I would like
>>>>> another way to keep him safe.
>>>>> Thanks for any tips or suggestions.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Raven
>>>>> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
>>>>> www.1am-editing.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>>>>> have or what you do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
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