[NAGDU] Just a thought

Mon Apr 25 15:12:01 UTC 2016

One thing to consider though is that not all dogs relieve on grass. If
I were to go to a national convention with my current dog, I would
relieve him in the street or in a parking lot rather than the relief
area because he is used to concrete. Being "in charge" of your dog is
one thing, but I know my dog and I know what he can and can't handle.
Relieving in an unfamiliar area on an unfamiliar surface with multiple
other dogs close by and more scents than you can imagine isn't going
to work for him. Of course I completely understand why having several
hundred dogs relieve on a small amount of grass isn't going to work,
but curb relieving your dog is an acceptable alternative in my
opinion.

Danielle and Thai

On 4/25/16, Caitlyn Furness via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> cindy,
>
> good points about how to handle the relief areas.
>
> I know when people aren’t paying attention because I have literally been
> plowed into by people who are just holding their canes in front of their
> bodies and not actually using them-lots of times.
>
> Cait
>
>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The conventions work hard to keep the relief areas clean, and they are far
>> better than they were in 1992, though they can get out of hand. The
>> numbers of dogs dictate relief areas because that many dogs will kill the
>> grassy areas. This doesn't go over well on the property. What you do is
>> find times to go there when there aren't lots of dogs--early before the
>> sessions close, etc. It works. Hotels shouldn't be stressful, especially
>> if you don't let them stress you out. I wonder how you all know that
>> people using canes aren't paying attention to their surroundings. Sure,
>> some are talking, some are actually stressed, and for the most part people
>> using canes are blind. I don't think it is entirely fair to lay the entire
>> blame on them. It is a situation that everybody could do a better job in
>> the way I see it.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
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>> Cc: Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furness at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Just a thought
>>
>> Well, I don’t know about ruining a dog, but opinions are rampant!  lol
>> First off, a smaller convention is nicer because you don’t have the large
>> crowds of people.  At the NFB conventions I’ve been to(years ago, btw!),
>> there were very large crowds of people using canes, and most of them were
>> not paying attention to their surroundings.  dogs were bopped by moving
>> canes more then once.  I can see how if you have a very sensitive dog,
>> they would get nervous about that pretty quick!
>>
>> Because of the stress, it’s good to give your dog a break from all the
>> activity.  some handlers just don’t think to do that.
>>
>> As far as hotels go, I really don’t see why that a hotel would be
>> stressful in and of itself.
>>
>> also, the relief areas at the conventions were usually a nightmare, and I
>> for one, would usually find a quiet place away from the main area and
>> potty my dog, then pick up on the way back into the hotel.
>>
>> hth,
>> Caitlyn, who hasn’t been to a convention since 1992.
>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2016, at 8:36 PM, d m gina via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pilot shared with the class taking a dog to a national convention could
>>> ruin a dog.
>>> OK I excepted that, where a thought came to mind.
>>> They have a weekend where if you can go to the small convention please
>>> come.
>>> My question is this,
>>> A hotel is a hotel. No matter what convention it is.
>>> Why couldn't the same dog stress out as would happen at a national
>>> convention?
>>> Just thinking out loud.
>>>
>>> I am seeing my girl grow up.
>>> First we don't like our tail stepped on.
>>> I have tried to get her to put her but under the table.
>>> No way she says, not wishing to do this.
>>> After so many steps on her tail, she was more than glad to turn around.
>>> Interesting for me, or as I call it entertaining.
>>>
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