[NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: Taking really long walks

Wed Apr 27 13:22:12 UTC 2016

Interesting. I feel like my dog does a really good job with uneven
surfaces. We have some of those uneven sidewalks mostly due to tree
roots around here as well and I take my dog hiking about every other
month and he does a fantastic job of distinguishing what we can just
walk over, when we need to walk a little more slowly, and what
requires an actual stop/pause. Sure, Thai did improve over the first
six months or so home as the bonding and maturity kicked in, but he
even did a good job during class. I remember one particular walk
during class where the trainer specifically talked about how Thai was
supposed to not only be careful of cracks that cut across the sidewalk
perpendicular to my line of travel, but also those that run parallel
to the sidewalk. Stopping for changes in elevation has always been one
of the tasks that my dog excels at, but I'm not really one to fall in
the first place. Obviously I don't have anything to compare to though
with Thai being my first dog.

Danielle and Thai

On 4/27/16, Lisa Belville via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hey there, Dan, Lisa with the other GDA P Dog.
>
> Yep, couldn't agree more.  I feel like I'm going into "Old Fart" Mode, but
> it really does seem that there's less attention to fine guiding detail then
>
> there was when I got my first dog 20 years ago.  I think it's an across the
>
> board thing and not a school specific thing.
>
> Paige is very careful with large cracks or just chunky side walks.  It
> helped that I tripped and did fall once with her during training, so she got
>
> instant feedback from me and her primary trainer at the time.
>
> I'm not sure if any school would ever go on record as recommending this, but
>
> I've heard tales of people faking out the dog by making it seem like they've
>
> fallen or Benn slammed into something by the dog and then really lathering
> on the correction, not necessarily just leash ones, but really guilt
> tripping the dog.
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a
> different one each day.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Weiner via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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> Cc: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
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>
>> That's an interesting question, Tracey...I have noticed last few times
>> around at guide dog school that the dogs were not careful about stopping
>> for
>> changes of surface or cracks at all, all right, every little crack, that's
>>
>> a
>> judgment ccall maybe but changes in surface could be a problem or little
>> steps or raised or falling areas.  I've worked wit my pups when I get
>> home
>> an dwe have a happy medium but I have wondered about that, I don't think
>> my
>> memory was failing me, I thin that 22 years ago when I got my first dog
>> the
>> dogs were made to be more careful.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Dan the man with Parker the nut
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:24 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>
>> I got scraped up, but nothing broken, and now he's more careful.
>> My neighborhood has a lot of cracked sidewalks because we have a lot of
>> large trees.  Trees are good; cracked sidewalks not so much.
>> My dogs have all had to learn how to operate here.  If they stopped for
>> every crack, we'd never get anywhere, but, if they don't stop for the
>> worst
>> ones, I trip.  I suppose I could learn to goose-step, picking my feet way
>> up, but I would feel ridiculous.  So my guys learn what will trip me, and
>> what probably won't.
>> I was happy to find a whole section of sidewalk the town had repaired.
>> Wish
>> they'd do more, but people around here are more interested in streets
>> than
>> sidewalks.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:46 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>
>> Original I am so sorry you fell.
>> I hope you didn't brake anything.
>> Maybe the next time you go to that area, your dog will slow down.
>> Wishing you the best.
>> message:
>>> The fall is not OK, but there is no foolproof travel method. I missed
>>> a turn in a slanted and broken curb the other day and fell. I have
>>> fallen using my dog, too. It happens. What is not OK for me is if it
>>> happens because the dog is distracted by, say, other dogs.
>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 2:02 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>
>>>                         The fall would not be ok with me. I know, easy
>>> for me to say since I don't have any emotions invested in the two of
>>> you.
>>> Is his pace comfortable for you?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 1:44 PM
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>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>
>>> The hiker says he works his dog 10-15 miles every day.  I was thinking
>>> about that.  His dog must have a good pace, or he's got a lot of free
>>> time.  Maybe he counts it as work time, keeping in shape for hiking.
>>
>>> Krokus takes about 90 minutes to go 3 miles, though that includes many
>>> street crossings and a lot of cracked sidewalks.  Even so, he's a bit
>>> more of a stroller than I'd prefer.  On the other hand, I have tripped
>>> over a big crack and landed hard, which isn't any fun at all.
>>
>>> I think Krokus is just a guy who needs some time to react.  He can
>>> dodge someone rushing out from a shop we're passing, but he'd prefer
>>> to have some time to plan his moves.  Or maybe I'm making excuses for
>>> his
>> ambling self.
>>
>>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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