[NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile

Jeffrey Young jeff.young8806 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 17 20:48:09 UTC 2016 

I've heard tell that holiday messages from way back are posted under the grads section of seeingeye.org but they must be doing some sort of maintenance because I'm getting a server error, so unfortunately I can't see how far back they go. If some of those recordings are available I'll post here if someone doesn't beat me to it. 

Jeff Young

> On Aug 17, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Aleeha Dudley via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That’s fantastic, Cheryl! What an awesome story! I’d love to have met any one of those folks. 
> Aleeha and Whitley 
>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Sherrill O'Brien via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd give anything to still have that record, but alas it disappeared years
>> ago.
>> 
>> I have another story from that first class. I was standing outside the van
>> waiting my turn to work with my instructor when I heard someone approaching
>> down the sidewalk. Suddenly there was this big growl, and a dog lunged
>> toward mine. My dog jumped up and growled back, and the man with the dog who
>> started it corrected his dog with the signature Seeing Eye correction word
>> "Phooey!" I had no idea who it was, and he just passed on by, without a
>> greeting or an apology. As a fledgling newby, I was embarrassed that my dog
>> reacted as she did, though now I would be more understanding of it. Anyway,
>> I gave her a big leash correction and in the process slammed my elbow on the
>> van door, getting a big bruise. The instructor arrived and said "Can you
>> guess who that was? None other than Morris Frank!"
>> So that's how I, well, sort of met our great pioneer. I'm sure he had so
>> many encounters with students in training in Morristown that he didn't think
>> twice about it, and just went about his business. But it was a strange
>> encounter for me.
>> 
>> Sherrill
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: August 17, 2016 2:53 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Star Gazer
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile
>> 
>>                Can anybody send a clip of his voice saying
>> that, now I'm curious to hear what it sounds like.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherrill O'Brien
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sherrill O'Brien <Sherrill.obrien at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile
>> 
>> Tracy and all,
>> 
>> I'm such an oldtimer that Mr. Debetaz  (pronounced Duhbaytuh) was at Seeing
>> Eye when I was in my very first class. I can remember him always greeting us
>> at the beginning of each day in his heavy Swiss accent and his rousing and
>> cheery voice saying, "Good mawning  students and litla dogs!" He made a big
>> impression on every student, and apparently the dogs as well. My dog and I
>> went home from the school in early September. Close to Christmas Seeing Eye
>> sent out their annual Christmas greetings as they still do by CD or online.
>> But back then, the greeting was in the form of...yes, a record! My dog was
>> with me when I played it, and when Mr. Debataz came on with that familiar
>> greeting, my dog jumped up and began barking and looking around...that was
>> so great! My husband and I still laugh about it. Good memories!
>> 
>> Sherrill
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: August 17, 2016 1:47 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile
>> 
>> Or you can read it in braille, also available on BARD, and work out your own
>> pronunciations.  Though I bet Debetaz beats most people--it did me, until I
>> met an old-timer graduate.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Young via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:39 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Jeffrey Young
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile
>> 
>> Thank you Tracy, I've read Love in the Lead, but apparently I missed that
>> little tidbit. For those interested it can be found on Bard. The narator is
>> decent, even though he butchers some Pronunciations.
>> 
>> Jeff Young
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Way back at the beginning of the guide dog movement, people felt the 
>>> fake dog needed its own name, so they called her Juno, after the 
>>> Goddess Juno, who is the goddess of marriage, among other things.
>>> Thus, the name Juno can be thought of as a symbol of loving 
>>> partnership, which seems very appropriate to me.
>>> This is according to Love in the Lead, which has a lot of the early 
>>> history of The Seeing Eye.  Since The Seeing Eye was the first 
>>> American guide dog school, its early history is the history of the 
>>> beginnings of guide dogs in the U.S.  Fascinating stuff, if you're 
>>> into
>> history, and very readable.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey 
>>> Young via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:46 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Jeffrey Young
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile
>>> 
>>> A juno walk is a walk with an instructor that simulates working a 
>>> guide
>> dog.
>>> You are instructed on how to hold the handle and leashe, and you get 
>>> to learn about pace, and the amount of pull you want in your dog. Is 
>>> it exactly the same as working a dog, no, however it helps a lot, and 
>>> it helps the instructor in giving you the best match possible. It also 
>>> enables the instructor to give the client immediate feedback on what 
>>> they are doing well with, and what they can improve upon.
>>> I do not know why it is called a juno walk, just the term they use I
>> guess. 
>>> 
>>> Jeff Young
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Andy B. via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is a juno walk?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey 
>>>> Young via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:31 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Jeffrey Young <jeff.young8806 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile
>>>> 
>>>> Hello John, and all:
>>>> 
>>>> As part of your application process to the Seeing Eye they will send 
>>>> out an instructor to do a Juno walk, and get to know you a little. If 
>>>> you are denied,  they will tell you exactly why, and exactly what 
>>>> they think you need to work on. I think you'll get a lot out of 
>>>> visiting with an instructor. It will definitely give you, and them 
>>>> much more information then a video.
>>>> I'm currently with my 2nd dog from The seeing Eye, and I'd be happy 
>>>> to answer any questions you have. Feel free to email me off list at 
>>>> jeff.young8806 at gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff Young
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:19 AM, John Sanders via NAGDU 
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only thing that they would tell me is that they would be sending 
>>>>> some
>>>> one out to see what my routes are.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It would take 6 months for them to do that though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Sanders
>>>>> 
>>>>> Skype: sandej.2006
>>>>> 
>>>>> facebook: jsanders85
>>>>> 
>>>>> twitter: starmy22
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/17/2016 5:39 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>>> I'm sorry you weren't accepted at Leader Dogs,  but  wishing you 
>>>>>> luck
>>>> with The Seeing Eye and GDF!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wonder what Guide Dogs of America meant by walking at a "normal
>>> speed"?
>>>> My dog and I both have completely natural, and matching, fast walking
>>> paces.
>>>> Whether I'm walking alone, with a cane, or with my dog, I just tend 
>>>> to walk quickly and always have. I hope that wouldn't be grounds for 
>>>> rejection sometime in the future.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lisie and her Speedy Mr Golden
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:36 PM, John Sanders via NAGDU 
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I just thought that I would write to let you know that I didn't 
>>>>>>> get
>>>> excepted in to Leader Dogs guide dog school.
>>>>>>> I'm looking at the seeing eye.
>>>>>>> I've heard from Guide dogs of America. and they said that I need 
>>>>>>> to keep
>>>> my walking at a normal walking speed.
>>>>>>> I was nervous and have a habit of walking quickly.
>>>>>>> The two schools I'm now looking at are the Seeing eye and Guide 
>>>>>>> dog
>>>> foundation.
>>>>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> John Sanders
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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