[NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile

Fri Aug 19 03:41:38 UTC 2016

It is also important to know that a guide dog isn't right for everyone.
John, a guide dog may not be the right choice for you at this point in
time.  A dog is a lot of work, takes regular handling in the beginning and
requires someone who has pretty good independent travel skills.  I know you
have wanted a dog for a long time.  Why do you think a guide dog is the
right travel aid for you?

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Dar via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I am a good traveler. One of the things I learned was to ask questions.
> When I am with friends visiting, I will use the gps just encase we get
> separated have been glad that a gps came out for us. My best friend.
>
>
> Dar
> Every Saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future, Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 18, 2016, at 8:53 PM, Andy B. via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Then it's up to you to use what they taught you independently.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Sanders
> via NAGDU
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:02 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: John Sanders <starmy22 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The blind agency that serves Michigan won't give me anymore Mobility
> training.
> >
> > They think that I have the skills.  They say that they don't want to use
> any more money for mobility training on me.
> >
> > I live in Michigan.
> >
> > I've attended leader dogs excellerated Mobility training program already.
> >
> > I hope to hear from you soon.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > John Sanders
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 8/17/2016 6:42 PM, Steven Johnson via NAGDU wrote:
> >> John, if Leader Dog denied you, the chances that another program will
> do the same until these issues are addressed.  Leader has been known to
> give applicants a *chance* that other programs might not, so the best thing
> you can do is heed their advice.  The Leader Dog AMP program is good, but
> what might be best is to get a thorough O&M training, and then move forward
> from there.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha
> >> Dudley via NAGDU
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:11 PM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> Cc: Aleeha Dudley
> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile
> >>
> >> John,
> >> If the school says that you need to work on your orientation and
> mobility skills, take that to heart. Perhaps attending a training center
> might be of interest to you? Keeping a fairly consistent speed is important
> when working a dog so as not to cause doubt in the dog’s mind as to your
> direction and intentions. Getting an instructor visit from the Seeing Eye
> might help you a lot in terms of knowing what you need to work on if they
> do not accept you. It is hard for someone to determine simply from your
> video exactly the skills you possess.
> >> I am working with my second Seeing Eye dog now, and I believe that they
> do a great job assessing their clients before they even et to campus. It is
> important that you can navigate competently and safely around your
> environment, as well as those that may not be familiar to you. You need to
> be able to cross streets safely, even those that you do not know. You need
> t be able to get yourself out of a situation if you get lost or you don’t
> know for sure where you are.
> >> I hope some of this information is helpful to you.
> >> Aleeha and Whitley
> >>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:13 AM, John Sanders via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> All they would say that my problem solving skills need to get better.
> and I need to work on my street crossing skills.
> >>>
> >>> I only messed up one time during the video on a street crossing.
> >>>
> >>> I did pretty well on the others.
> >>>
> >>> The only other thing they said was that I need to work on my mobility
> skills.
> >>>
> >>> And I can't get any additional mobility training because the blind
> agency here in Michigan doesn't think I need it.
> >>> They won't spend anymore money on it.
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking about applying to GDF or the seeing eye.
> >>>
> >>> I've heard those are pretty good schools.
> >>>
> >>> I hope to hear from you soon.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> John Sanders
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/17/2016 7:44 AM, Andy B. via NAGDU wrote:
> >>>> Last I knew, the trainers were supposed to match you with a dog that
> fit your walking pace and lifestyle. Strange that they would refuse on
> walking speed. Might it be something else they might not be telling?
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah I was also confused by that.
> >>>>> The only time I'm slow is when I'm on the phone or shopping lol.
> >>>>> Otherwise Doc and I are what my trainer called Medium Fast.
> >>>>> Best wishes to you.
> >>>>> Nancy & Doc
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:40 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm sorry you weren't accepted at Leader Dogs,  but  wishing you
> luck with The Seeing Eye and GDF!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wonder what Guide Dogs of America meant by walking at a "normal
> speed"? My dog and I both have completely natural, and matching, fast
> walking paces. Whether I'm walking alone, with a cane, or with my dog, I
> just tend to walk quickly and always have. I hope that wouldn't be grounds
> for rejection sometime in the future.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lisie and her Speedy Mr Golden
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:36 PM, John Sanders via NAGDU <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>> I just thought that I would write to let you know that I didn't
> get excepted in to Leader Dogs guide dog school.
> >>>>>>> I'm looking at the seeing eye.
> >>>>>>> I've heard from Guide dogs of America. and they said that I need
> to keep my walking at a normal walking speed.
> >>>>>>> I was nervous and have a habit of walking quickly.
> >>>>>>> The two schools I'm now looking at are the Seeing eye and Guide
> dog foundation.
> >>>>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
> >>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>> John Sanders
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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