[NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: picking up after dog

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Wed Jan 13 20:38:32 UTC 2016 

Hi there,
Do you have a male or female.
I have considered wearing rubber gloves taking them off after I handle 
the bag with all of its surprise inside.
It is so truly groce.
Even when I tryy to use a shorter leash to get close to her she isn't 
excited about this for one minute.
I was out and about yesterday where she had to go, and the bag was soiled.
Inside and out.
A gentleman helped me take it to a trash can.
I didn't want himm to touch this, but he said he wasn't going to worry 
about it.
I know not all persons would feel the same way.
Good luck and glad to hear from you.

Original message:
> I use a relieving harness which was given to me by my school. I got Zeb 
> used to it in training as he moved  around and still does when he goes. 
> In my area where I live there's a pretty steep fine for not cleaning up 
> that I really don't want to pay. It would help if these schools would 
> realize who these wonderful dogs are going to and do some long-term 
> planning and brainstorming about these types of things and that should 
> include not just trainers but also the raisers and should be consistent 
> across the board.`

> Rebecca and Zeb
> email: rilniski at gmail.com

>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>            I think there is a difference between not being able
>> to do something and half-assing it. It sounds like Dan, that you half-ass
>> picking up, at least that's how I read your message. Far better to decide
>> you can't or just will not do it, and have someone else do a good job then
>> to say "It's hard because I'm blind".
>> I don't really care how poop gets picked up, just that it gets done well.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:10 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog

>> Sandra, I don't exactly understand the hostility in your post. You maybe
>> cannot pick up; most of us can; therefore, it is our responsibility to do
>> so. Why? Because other people might walk in it if we don't. I think it is
>> really uncalled for to say we are self-righteous, especially since the whole
>> thread came up in the first place because someone was asking the question.
>> It is hard to pick up in snow; it isn't close to impossible unless you
>> really are physically incapable. I don't see the need for the hostility, not
>> from you or from anyone else. State you have physical limitations and
>> cannot; then leave it at that.
>> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
>> cindyray at gmail.com


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 9:22 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: S L Johnson <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog

>> Hi Dan,

>> Finally someone who agrees with me.  I know this post will make the rest of
>> you self righteous folks very mad but, I think it has to be said.  We are
>> blind and we can not do everything perfectly.  There is nothing wrong with
>> admitting there are things we cannot do.  In some cities blind people are
>> exempt from picking up and I think it should be that way everywhere.  It is
>> not easy with some dogs who move around a lot or dogs who do not like being
>> touched or approached as they are relieving themselves.  Picking up can
>> cause a lot of stress for a handler for several reasons.  Where is the
>> nearest trash can?  you can't just stroll down the street with a bag of dog
>> waste in your hand.  If you are a woman all dressed up in a long fancy
>> dress, do you really want to bend down and get all messed up?  As many of
>> you have said, picking up in the snow is almost impossible.  Why can't we be
>> like those other countries and just admit that as blind people there are
>> entitled to some consideration and exemptions?  I will admit, I never pick
>> up after my dogs.  In my own back yard, I let her out on her 30 foot tie-out
>> and get sighted help to clean the yard twice a week.  She usually goes at
>> home but, if she did go out in public, I would find some grass and let her
>> go.  When at conventions, I find a quiet area of grass at the hotel and
>> convention center where my dog can go and if somebody doesn't like it, then
>> too bad.  I have physical limitations that make picking up impossible so,
>> the rest of you will just have to live with it.  For some of us, it is
>> impossible, especially if you have other medical issues.  I do not
>> understand why many blind people refuse to admit that there are just some
>> things that we can not do.

>> Sandra and Eva

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Weiner via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:46 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Dan Weiner
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog

>> I clean up after my dog especially in public because it's required,. But I
>> think we should be given an exemption on cleaning up as they do in some
>> countries It is harder to clean up if we're blind, sorry,  JMO.  .
>> You guys don't like  my opinion, , I don't care--lol One of the great things
>> about the net is that we can all express our opinions if we do it
>> respectfully.

>> Now, so in my home area my hound relieves in the back yard,  and therefore
>> if I miss something it's no big deal.when we're out and about I clean up and
>> I do use a short leash because otherwise Mr. parker has the singular habit
>> of walking while he delivers his calling card--smile. If he's on a long
>> leash it's very hard to figure out what he's doing, if he's on a long leash
>> I hold it closer to the collar...if I touch his back he walks away so it's
>> always an interesting experience--lol.
>> And no, my potential critics, he was always this way even at school, not
>> just since he came home and can run free in the fenced back yard at my
>> disgression.

>> Warmest wishes to all,
>> Dan the lovable but opinionated


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:42 PM
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>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog

>> I always use a short leash.  And you'll remember how sort TSE leashes are.
>> Tracy


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:38 PM
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>> Cc: d m gina
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog

>> It is that long stretch from the top of the leash to the dog to walk up to
>> her.
>> I make the leash taught so I can feel when she stops to go.
>> As I move my foot she starts to move as well like a dance loll.
>> Now ahem would rather dance with my husband. smile.
>> That is the part I wonder about.
>> Even on short leash.

>> Original message:
>>> As soon as I feel her back is arched, I put my hand on it and then I
>>> step behind him so that one foot is on either side of him. You want to
>>> have your hand starting at the head and then run it down his back.
>>> Then you can follow where he goes; you go down to just above the tail
>>> and keep a light hand on him.
>>> Cindy


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 1:31 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog

>>> How did you learn how to walk up to the dog. Even sliding feet.
>>> Sure would save on bags when she uses lots of them during the day.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi Dar.
>>>> Ben used to move while relieving.  The solution was to hold the leash
>>>> pretty close to his collar, so, even if he moved, he couldn't move
>>>> far.  Pretty soon, he stopped moving.
>>>> Good luck.  Picking up in snow is a pain.
>>>> Tracy


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:57 PM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] picking up after dog

>>>> Folks when you are brainless as I are smile, I forget to take off the
>>>> toileting harness.
>>>> The other dogs this didn't matter, to her it does.
>>>> She chewed up this one so bad I finally threw it away.
>>>> When I try to follow leash down telling her to stay, she will move.
>>>> If you have tricks of the trade or trade the trick that woud be kind.
>>>> In the winter with snow I will keep her using the harness.
>>>> Safer for me.
>>>> She not only goes inside the bag but on the outside as well.
>>>> Ugg not nice at all.
>>>> Just wanted to know how you do it.
>>>> Thanks,

>>>> --
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