[NAGDU] Update on Uber Case in Tennessee
James Alan Boehm
secretary at nfb-tn.org
Sun Jun 26 16:58:50 UTC 2016
Dear friends.
I look forward to seeing many of you at our convention this week! I wanted to update you guys on my situation with the Uber driver who left me stranded a couple of months ago. See the story here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYyHQ0-Nr7E <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYyHQ0-Nr7E>
The above story reached n not only the local media outlets in Nashville, but was aired in Memphis, Knoxville, New York, and as far away as san Fransisco! The Rutherford county police, with my persistence and education, have charged the former Uber driver and her hearing is set for August 9th at 8 am. I already have a couple commitments from local television news reporters. We are also beginning to put together a press release. This case will set the tone to all Uber/Lift drivers that if they discriminate and deny a public service to an individual with a service dog, they can be prosecuted by law enforcement. In Tennessee it is a criminal offense-a Class C misdemeanor. I will keep you posted to what happens!
Best,
James and Shep
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> From: Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furness at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Golden Retriever Question
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 7:45:11 AM CDT
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> One of the things is that the crosses aren’t so sensitive as the pure Goldens.. I’m not sure about the rest, if there is any “rest”.
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> Cait
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>> On Jun 24, 2016, at 1:27 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> I have a sort of random question, I don't know if anyone will have time to answer!
>>
>> I'm wondering what the traits are in purebred (versus Golden/Lab mixes) Golden Retrievers that cause them to make up such a relatively small percentage of the total number of working guide dogs?
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>> Thank you!
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>> Lisie and Finn
>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
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> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Golden Retriever Question
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 8:48:40 AM CDT
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> The crosses are more stable healthwise, but they have a lot of the similar traits of labs and goldens--they are loyal, they love to work, they are mischievous, they are intelligent.
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Golden Retriever Question
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> One of the things is that the crosses aren’t so sensitive as the pure Goldens.. I’m not sure about the rest, if there is any “rest”.
>
> Cait
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>> On Jun 24, 2016, at 1:27 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> I have a sort of random question, I don't know if anyone will have time to answer!
>>
>> I'm wondering what the traits are in purebred (versus Golden/Lab mixes) Golden Retrievers that cause them to make up such a relatively small percentage of the total number of working guide dogs?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Lisie and Finn
>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> From: "Melissa R Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 1:05:45 AM CDT
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> I have to work on leaving her alone a little bit more. So when she retires to her new family, she cancan be alone more when they have to leave her at home. I have to work on the kennel training again. I guess I have to start it. She does like the kennel that rox and I think Julie J recommended. But only for a couple of minutes. suggestions are appreciated.
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> Sincerely,
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> Original Gee Tracy
> You are no fun,
> my girl still needs to grow up.
> She will come up with anything to do in the house before I think of
> what she wants to do next.
> Love summer,
> We can spend most of the time outside, so she can dream up something there.
> Smile,
> message:
>> Yesterday was our town street fair. I decided to leave Krokus home, since
>> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
>> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings. I felt
>> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
>> confining him to the crate. I just put away my shoes, in case my absence
>> aroused his inner puppy. And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
>> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
>> alone, but now he can. The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
>> Tracy
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> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 9:40:16 AM CDT
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> You can crate her or just put her alone in a room and leave her for
> two or three minutes and then work up to longer, not being all dramatic when
> you get back or when you leave; just put her there, say she's a good girl,
> then leave. When you come get her, just let her go free and maybe praise her
> a little.
> Cindy
> cindyray at gmail.com
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
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> I have to work on leaving her alone a little bit more. So when she retires
> to her new family, she cancan be alone more when they have to leave her at
> home. I have to work on the kennel training again. I guess I have to start
> it. She does like the kennel that rox and I think Julie J recommended. But
> only for a couple of minutes. suggestions are appreciated.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Melissa R Green and Pj
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 1:28 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
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> Original Gee Tracy
> You are no fun,
> my girl still needs to grow up.
> She will come up with anything to do in the house before I think of what she
> wants to do next.
> Love summer,
> We can spend most of the time outside, so she can dream up something there.
> Smile,
> message:
>> Yesterday was our town street fair. I decided to leave Krokus home,
>> since it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and
>> I would be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.
>> I felt Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house,
>> instead of confining him to the crate. I just put away my shoes, in
>> case my absence aroused his inner puppy. And he was good, just as I
>> thought he'd be.
>> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
>> alone, but now he can. The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
>> Tracy
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> From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Golden Retriever Question
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 10:12:03 AM CDT
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> Caitlyn:
>
> That is what I have been told by several schools. The goal was to get the
> gentleness of the golden with the stability of the lab and come up with a
> stable but calmer gentler dog that could handle the stress of the fast-paced
> travel environments we see today. They also felt the golden/lab cross would
> be more appropriate for many of the applicants , especially those of us who
> are aging or who have other medical issues or disabilities. From m my
> discussions with many of the schools, they are very satisfied with the
> golden/lab cross. I am sure many of you who have a cross will agree but, I
> will be very interested to hear opinions from people working a cross. Do
> they see them as good as their labs? Are there disadvantages? Are there
> behavior differences?
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Caitlyn Furness via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 8:45 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Caitlyn Furness
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Golden Retriever Question
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> One of the things is that the crosses aren�?Tt so sensitive as the pure
> Goldens.. I�?Tm not sure about the rest, if there is any �?orest�?�.
>
> Cait
>
>> On Jun 24, 2016, at 1:27 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a sort of random question, I don't know if anyone will have time to
>> answer!
>>
>> I'm wondering what the traits are in purebred (versus Golden/Lab mixes)
>> Golden Retrievers that cause them to make up such a relatively small
>> percentage of the total number of working guide dogs?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Lisie and Finn
>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Golden Retriever Question
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 10:21:04 AM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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> I have a cross. I loved my labs, though one didn't work worth diddly. Fisher
> has been healthier longer than Spencer was, (Spencer was a golden) though I
> may have retired Fisher too early due to his dog issues. Even within breeds
> they have their own personality just as we do, but I haven't found anything
> that did not recommend the cross
> .
> Cindy
> cindyray at gmail.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:12 AM
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> Cc: S L Johnson <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Golden Retriever Question
>
> Caitlyn:
>
> That is what I have been told by several schools. The goal was to get the
> gentleness of the golden with the stability of the lab and come up with a
> stable but calmer gentler dog that could handle the stress of the fast-paced
> travel environments we see today. They also felt the golden/lab cross would
> be more appropriate for many of the applicants , especially those of us who
> are aging or who have other medical issues or disabilities. From m my
> discussions with many of the schools, they are very satisfied with the
> golden/lab cross. I am sure many of you who have a cross will agree but, I
> will be very interested to hear opinions from people working a cross. Do
> they see them as good as their labs? Are there disadvantages? Are there
> behavior differences?
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Caitlyn Furness via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 8:45 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Caitlyn Furness
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Golden Retriever Question
>
> One of the things is that the crosses arenb?Tt so sensitive as the pure
> Goldens.. Ib?Tm not sure about the rest, if there is any b?orestb?
.
>
> Cait
>
>> On Jun 24, 2016, at 1:27 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a sort of random question, I don't know if anyone will have
>> time to answer!
>>
>> I'm wondering what the traits are in purebred (versus Golden/Lab
>> mixes) Golden Retrievers that cause them to make up such a relatively
>> small percentage of the total number of working guide dogs?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Lisie and Finn
>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 10:21:49 AM CDT
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> Melissa:
>
> Why do you think she will need a crate? When I retired my previous dogs to
> their new homes, they had no problems being left alone in the house. Their
> new owners did not use any tie-downs or crates. The older dog was perfectly
> content to find a comfortable place to sleep until their new owner got back
> home. In my case none of my dogs have ever been in a crate so they were
> used to having complete freedom in the house. I am sure your dog will
> adjust to her new home when that time comes.
>
> Sandra and Eva
> SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melissa R Green via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:05 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Melissa R Green
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
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> I have to work on leaving her alone a little bit more. So when she
> retires to her new family, she cancan be alone more when they have to
> leave her at home. I have to work on the kennel training again. I guess
> I have to start it. She does like the kennel that rox and I think Julie J
> recommended. But only for a couple of minutes. suggestions are
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Melissa R Green and Pj
> -----Original Message-----
> From: d m gina via NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 1:28 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Original Gee Tracy
> You are no fun,
> my girl still needs to grow up.
> She will come up with anything to do in the house before I think of
> what she wants to do next.
> Love summer,
> We can spend most of the time outside, so she can dream up something
> there.
> Smile,
> message:
>> Yesterday was our town street fair. I decided to leave Krokus home, since
>> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
>> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings. I felt
>> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
>> confining him to the crate. I just put away my shoes, in case my absence
>> aroused his inner puppy. And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
>> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
>> alone, but now he can. The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
>> Tracy
>
>
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> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] [nagdu] counter surfing
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 10:46:02 AM CDT
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
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> I would keep the dog on leash or buy a crate from wallmart that isn't all expensive.
> If you have a spot in the living room put it there.
> Then he still can see you plus not get on counters.
> My crate can fold down if needed for the living room.
> I will do that if I think she wishes to get into trouble.
> It is hard with family.
> Just do what the school says and let them worry about it.
> Hope this helps.
> I am just starting to get to messages today.
> Original message:
>> Hi all,
>
>> Thai has been a counter surfer to an extent since the second week of
>> class, but it's really become a problem in the last few weeks now that
>> everyone is home/not working for the summer--three of the four people
>> I live with are in college or work in a high school. The scavenging is
>> manageable while working and at school, but it's a real problem at
>> home because of the amount of reachable surfaces and the tendency for
>> my family to forget just how food obsessed he really is. I also have
>> to deal with the "you don't feed him enough" and the "guide dogs are
>> supposed to be perfect" comments. Gotta love family...
>
>> So far I've tried:
>> 1. Click and treat for walking past food and/or getting off the
>> counter as soon as I say so. I've had limited success with this, but
>> it's difficult when there's food I don't know about or a lot of
>> background noise that makes it hard to hear my super sneaky dog, even
>> with a collar bell.
>> 2. Obedience around food. He does a pretty good job leaving food when
>> actively engaged in a heel, stay, or recall, but not so much once he
>> is released from these activities.
>> 3. Applying an aversive substance to the food. Thai isn't phased by
>> much other than cayenne pepper. He will often sniff the food before
>> eating it, either from a short distance away or when he actually jumps
>> up and avoids the sabotaged food, which kind of eliminates the
>> unpleasant surprise.
>> 4. Walking past food with him on leash and correcting for any move
>> toward it. Only works for that one piece of food in that situation. If
>> we come back later or I let him off the leash, he eats the food. The
>> reward of the food is apparently worth the discomfort of the
>> correction.
>> 5. Spraying with water or shaking a can with pennies inside. I don't
>> like using aversive methods, but I got desperate enough to try. I've
>> had some success with this, but we still run into the food is worth
>> the correction thing. The penny can also absolutely terrifies my
>> little pet dog... multiple dog problems.
>> 6. Keeping him on leash or tiedown when ever we're out of my room and
>> not engaged in a specific activity. This management technique isn't
>> ideal, but it worked until about six months ago when the puppy was
>> actually old enough to have freedom in the house. She basically wants
>> to play all the time, and pounces on Thai every time he lays down.
>> It's not really fair for him to have to deal with a puppy literally
>> standing or laying on him without having the option to walk away. No
>> one really wants to help tone down the puppy's enthusiasm, and I can
>> only do so much on my own. That limits the time Thai can be leashed to
>> when she is also on tiedown or upstairs with someone else.
>> 7. Putting a cookie sheet at the edge of the table with a piece of
>> food behind it. It's supposed to fall to the ground when the dog jumps
>> up on it and make a really loud noise... He wouldn't jump on it.
>
>> I thought about crating him while someone is preparing a meal, which
>> is the most likely time for him to find food unattended. A tiedown
>> works just as well when puppy isn't around though, and since I'm not
>> sure if we are keeping her (she was released from all service dog
>> programs due to medical problems), I don't want to buy a crate just
>> yet.
>
>> I've also thought about using some kind of muzzle temporarily just to
>> break the jumping on counters is so rewarding cycle, but this also
>> would leave him at a disadvantage when playing with the puppy. They
>> love to play bite each others' scruffs...
>
>> I'm not comfortable using shock devices, so I'm fresh out of ideas.
>> Sorry for the long post, but I feel like I've tried everything, and
>> I'm getting desperate. I plan on contacting my school, but I figured
>> it couldn't hurt to see if anyone had any other ideas.
>
>> Danielle and Thai
>
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> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] [nagdu] counter surfing
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 10:48:25 AM CDT
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>
>
> When I brought her home, she took the stream outside.
> We didn't know it, so the stream spent the night outside.
> Glad it didn't snow.
> At this time so far she has grown up lots.
> Gee I never thought it would happen loll.
> Now she still wishes to greet people and I am working on this, so she will stay on her work.
> Hope by now you found the stream.
> Original message:
>> I am not sure how click and treat (giving food) helps to eliminate the food
>> thing. Just seems ironic to me, but I can't think like that. We are hunting
>> Bob's Victor Stream. One orf the dogs borrowed it off his desk and chewed up
>> the strap.
>> I'm thinking the crate while fixing food is a good idea. It seems you have
>> tried it all.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:49 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] [nagdu] counter surfing
>
>> Hi all,
>
>> Thai has been a counter surfer to an extent since the second week of class,
>> but it's really become a problem in the last few weeks now that everyone is
>> home/not working for the summer--three of the four people I live with are in
>> college or work in a high school. The scavenging is manageable while working
>> and at school, but it's a real problem at home because of the amount of
>> reachable surfaces and the tendency for my family to forget just how food
>> obsessed he really is. I also have to deal with the "you don't feed him
>> enough" and the "guide dogs are supposed to be perfect" comments. Gotta love
>> family...
>
>> So far I've tried:
>> 1. Click and treat for walking past food and/or getting off the counter as
>> soon as I say so. I've had limited success with this, but it's difficult
>> when there's food I don't know about or a lot of background noise that makes
>> it hard to hear my super sneaky dog, even with a collar bell.
>> 2. Obedience around food. He does a pretty good job leaving food when
>> actively engaged in a heel, stay, or recall, but not so much once he is
>> released from these activities.
>> 3. Applying an aversive substance to the food. Thai isn't phased by much
>> other than cayenne pepper. He will often sniff the food before eating it,
>> either from a short distance away or when he actually jumps up and avoids
>> the sabotaged food, which kind of eliminates the unpleasant surprise.
>> 4. Walking past food with him on leash and correcting for any move toward
>> it. Only works for that one piece of food in that situation. If we come back
>> later or I let him off the leash, he eats the food. The reward of the food
>> is apparently worth the discomfort of the correction.
>> 5. Spraying with water or shaking a can with pennies inside. I don't like
>> using aversive methods, but I got desperate enough to try. I've had some
>> success with this, but we still run into the food is worth the correction
>> thing. The penny can also absolutely terrifies my little pet dog... multiple
>> dog problems.
>> 6. Keeping him on leash or tiedown when ever we're out of my room and not
>> engaged in a specific activity. This management technique isn't ideal, but
>> it worked until about six months ago when the puppy was actually old enough
>> to have freedom in the house. She basically wants to play all the time, and
>> pounces on Thai every time he lays down.
>> It's not really fair for him to have to deal with a puppy literally standing
>> or laying on him without having the option to walk away. No one really wants
>> to help tone down the puppy's enthusiasm, and I can only do so much on my
>> own. That limits the time Thai can be leashed to when she is also on tiedown
>> or upstairs with someone else.
>> 7. Putting a cookie sheet at the edge of the table with a piece of food
>> behind it. It's supposed to fall to the ground when the dog jumps up on it
>> and make a really loud noise... He wouldn't jump on it.
>
>> I thought about crating him while someone is preparing a meal, which is the
>> most likely time for him to find food unattended. A tiedown works just as
>> well when puppy isn't around though, and since I'm not sure if we are
>> keeping her (she was released from all service dog programs due to medical
>> problems), I don't want to buy a crate just yet.
>
>> I've also thought about using some kind of muzzle temporarily just to break
>> the jumping on counters is so rewarding cycle, but this also would leave him
>> at a disadvantage when playing with the puppy. They love to play bite each
>> others' scruffs...
>
>> I'm not comfortable using shock devices, so I'm fresh out of ideas.
>> Sorry for the long post, but I feel like I've tried everything, and I'm
>> getting desperate. I plan on contacting my school, but I figured it couldn't
>> hurt to see if anyone had any other ideas.
>
>> Danielle and Thai
>
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> From: The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 11:14:23 AM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hello,
> What I have always done, is feed my dogs in their crates. Every time they eat, or if I give out a bone for them to chew, it happens in their crates. So they develop a natural association between their crates, and something they love very much, like food. If your girl is food motivated, you might try that. Good luck
> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:05 AM, Melissa R Green via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have to work on leaving her alone a little bit more. So when she retires to her new family, she cancan be alone more when they have to leave her at home. I have to work on the kennel training again. I guess I have to start it. She does like the kennel that rox and I think Julie J recommended. But only for a couple of minutes. suggestions are appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Melissa R Green and Pj
>> -----Original Message----- From: d m gina via NAGDU
>> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 1:28 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>>
>> Original Gee Tracy
>> You are no fun,
>> my girl still needs to grow up.
>> She will come up with anything to do in the house before I think of
>> what she wants to do next.
>> Love summer,
>> We can spend most of the time outside, so she can dream up something there.
>> Smile,
>> message:
>>> Yesterday was our town street fair. I decided to leave Krokus home, since
>>> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
>>> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings. I felt
>>> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
>>> confining him to the crate. I just put away my shoes, in case my absence
>>> aroused his inner puppy. And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
>>> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
>>> alone, but now he can. The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
>>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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>
> From: "Melissa R Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 12:22:14 PM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> thank you for that suggestion. I found out that her puppy raiser kept her in a crate. So it will be a matter of introducing her to it again.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Melissa R Green and Pj
> -----Original Message----- From: The Pawpower Pack via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:14 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: The Pawpower Pack
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Hello,
> What I have always done, is feed my dogs in their crates. Every time they eat, or if I give out a bone for them to chew, it happens in their crates. So they develop a natural association between their crates, and something they love very much, like food. If your girl is food motivated, you might try that. Good luck
> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:05 AM, Melissa R Green via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have to work on leaving her alone a little bit more. So when she retires to her new family, she cancan be alone more when they have to leave her at home. I have to work on the kennel training again. I guess I have to start it. She does like the kennel that rox and I think Julie J recommended. But only for a couple of minutes. suggestions are appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Melissa R Green and Pj
>> -----Original Message----- From: d m gina via NAGDU
>> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 1:28 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>>
>> Original Gee Tracy
>> You are no fun,
>> my girl still needs to grow up.
>> She will come up with anything to do in the house before I think of
>> what she wants to do next.
>> Love summer,
>> We can spend most of the time outside, so she can dream up something there.
>> Smile,
>> message:
>>> Yesterday was our town street fair. I decided to leave Krokus home, since
>>> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
>>> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings. I felt
>>> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
>>> confining him to the crate. I just put away my shoes, in case my absence
>>> aroused his inner puppy. And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
>>> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
>>> alone, but now he can. The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
>>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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> From: "Melissa R Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 12:27:54 PM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> they are the ones that suggested this idea and she has both separation and some anxiety disorder.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Melissa R Green and Pj
> -----Original Message----- From: S L Johnson via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:21 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: S L Johnson
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Melissa:
>
> Why do you think she will need a crate? When I retired my previous dogs to
> their new homes, they had no problems being left alone in the house. Their
> new owners did not use any tie-downs or crates. The older dog was perfectly
> content to find a comfortable place to sleep until their new owner got back
> home. In my case none of my dogs have ever been in a crate so they were
> used to having complete freedom in the house. I am sure your dog will
> adjust to her new home when that time comes.
>
> Sandra and Eva
> SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Melissa R Green via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:05 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Melissa R Green
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> I have to work on leaving her alone a little bit more. So when she
> retires to her new family, she cancan be alone more when they have to
> leave her at home. I have to work on the kennel training again. I guess
> I have to start it. She does like the kennel that rox and I think Julie J
> recommended. But only for a couple of minutes. suggestions are
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Melissa R Green and Pj
> -----Original Message----- From: d m gina via NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 1:28 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Original Gee Tracy
> You are no fun,
> my girl still needs to grow up.
> She will come up with anything to do in the house before I think of
> what she wants to do next.
> Love summer,
> We can spend most of the time outside, so she can dream up something
> there.
> Smile,
> message:
>> Yesterday was our town street fair. I decided to leave Krokus home, since
>> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
>> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings. I felt
>> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
>> confining him to the crate. I just put away my shoes, in case my absence
>> aroused his inner puppy. And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
>> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
>> alone, but now he can. The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
>> Tracy
>
>
>
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> From: Bianka Brankovic <bianka at andi-bika.de>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 12:33:55 PM CDT
> To: Melissa R Green via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hello list,
>
> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce myself and my guide dog.
>
> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs. My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>
> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>
> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or another.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bianka
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 12:40:02 PM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hello, Bianka. Congratulations on your stellar command of written
> English--smile.
> I'm Dan and you know me of course, but for the rest of our fellow listers.
> I'm Dan Weiner from Florida.
> I know Bianka from the days of yesteryear when, during the last
> century--smile there were lists like Buddy-l and so on.
> I'm sure she will have many interesting things to tell us..
>
> My dog is Parker, a yellow lab from Guide Dogs of America and though it's
> hard to believe, he's my fourth pup.
>
> Take care and welcome Bianka.
>
> Dan W.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bianka
> Brankovic via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 1:34 PM
> To: Melissa R Green via NAGDU
> Cc: Bianka Brankovic
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>
> Hello list,
>
> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce
> myself and my guide dog.
>
> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs.
> My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide
> dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>
> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I
> started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and
> interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>
> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or
> another.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bianka
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 1:33:42 PM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Bianka, welcome to the list. It is always good to have new people, and to
> have perspectives from other countries is ery enriching. Welcome, and
> contribute when you can.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bianka Brankovic
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 12:34 PM
> To: Melissa R Green via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bianka Brankovic <bianka at andi-bika.de>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>
> Hello list,
>
> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce
> myself and my guide dog.
>
> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs.
> My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide
> dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>
> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I
> started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and
> interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>
> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or
> another.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bianka
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> From: Terra Peterson <terraleepeterson at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 1:54:45 PM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hi y'all
> My name is Terra Peterson. I just joined this list. I live in Nashville Tennessee with my husband Michael and our guide dogs. I have a leader dog Named Sadona. She is a yellow lab. We have been a team for 2 years.
> I am looking forward to attending my first ever national convention next week and being at the NAGDU meeting.
> I look forward to getting to know everyone and sharing and receiving information about guide dogs on this list.
> Have a great weekend.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Bianka Brankovic via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce myself and my guide dog.
>>
>> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs. My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>>
>> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>>
>> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or another.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Bianka
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/terraleepeterson%40gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 2:22:57 PM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Terra, welcome to the list. I am one of the moderators, Cindy Ray. We are
> glad you are here and look forward to meeting you next week.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Terra Peterson
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 1:55 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Terra Peterson <terraleepeterson at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>
> Hi y'all
> My name is Terra Peterson. I just joined this list. I live in Nashville
> Tennessee with my husband Michael and our guide dogs. I have a leader dog
> Named Sadona. She is a yellow lab. We have been a team for 2 years.
> I am looking forward to attending my first ever national convention next
> week and being at the NAGDU meeting.
> I look forward to getting to know everyone and sharing and receiving
> information about guide dogs on this list.
> Have a great weekend.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Bianka Brankovic via NAGDU
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce
> myself and my guide dog.
>>
>> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs.
> My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide
> dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>>
>> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I
> started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and
> interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>>
>> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or
> another.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Bianka
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NAGDU mailing list
>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NAGDU:
>>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/terraleepeterson%40gmail.
> com
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 2:54:05 PM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Erra,
>
> Since this is your first convention, you may wish to be a part of
> our mentoring program. Aleeha Dudley, one of our board members, can send you
> the information. I look forward to meeting you in Orlando and hope you will
> be attending our meeting on July 2 from 7:00 - 10:00 pm in the Panzacola
> Ballroom F-2 level 1!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Terra Peterson
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:55 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Terra Peterson
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>
> Hi y'all
> My name is Terra Peterson. I just joined this list. I live in Nashville
> Tennessee with my husband Michael and our guide dogs. I have a leader dog
> Named Sadona. She is a yellow lab. We have been a team for 2 years.
> I am looking forward to attending my first ever national convention next
> week and being at the NAGDU meeting.
> I look forward to getting to know everyone and sharing and receiving
> information about guide dogs on this list.
> Have a great weekend.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Bianka Brankovic via NAGDU
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce
> myself and my guide dog.
>>
>> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs.
> My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide
> dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>>
>> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I
> started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and
> interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>>
>> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or
> another.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Bianka
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NAGDU mailing list
>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NAGDU:
>>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/terraleepeterson%40gmail.
> com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 2:56:52 PM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Bianca,
>
> Thank you very much for joining our list and introducing yourself!
> My name Is marion Gwizdala; I live in Tampa, Florida and have a German
> Shepherd guide from the Guide Dog Foundation in Smithtown, NY! I look
> forward to learning more about the use of guide dogs in the EU!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bianka Brankovic
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 1:34 PM
> To: Melissa R Green via NAGDU
> Cc: Bianka Brankovic
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>
> Hello list,
>
> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce
> myself and my guide dog.
>
> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs.
> My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide
> dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>
> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I
> started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and
> interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>
> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or
> another.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bianka
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NAGDU mailing list
> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 3:04:49 PM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Haley,
>
> Welcome to our list and your introduction. Two big tips I can offer
> you is to connect with Aleeha Dudley and ask for a NAGDU mentor. She can
> offer you all the details and having a mentor will help you navigate
> convention with ease. The other tip is to attend the NAGDU meeting on July 2
> from 7:00 - 10:00 pm in panzacola Ballroom F-2 Level 1! I hope to see you
> there!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Haley Sumner via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 10:05 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Haley Sumner
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>
> Hi fellow guide dog enthusiasts,
>
> My name is Haley Sumner, and I recently joined this list to provide support,
> advice, and ask questions as all of us travel on our various journeys with
> our four-legged friends. Last July, I received a beautiful, loving,
> attentive, and sweet golden yellow lab cross named Ezzie from The Seeing
> Eye, and as a lot of you can relate to, I haven't looked back since. I will
> be a sophomore at butler University in the fall, and my guide adjusted to
> the atmosphere beautifully and made the year all the more enjoyable.
>
> On Wednesday, Ezzie and I will be flying into Orlando for convention, and
> because it is my first time attending with a dog, I am curious if you all
> have any tips or suggestions to make our experience as wonderful and
> stress-free as possible?
>
> Thanks so much, and I look forward to talking with you all soon,
>
> Haley Sumner
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NAGDU mailing list
> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 3:39:01 PM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hey Tara, I thought you were in California? Congratulations on the move :-)
>
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Terra Peterson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi y'all
>> My name is Terra Peterson. I just joined this list. I live in Nashville Tennessee with my husband Michael and our guide dogs. I have a leader dog Named Sadona. She is a yellow lab. We have been a team for 2 years.
>> I am looking forward to attending my first ever national convention next week and being at the NAGDU meeting.
>> I look forward to getting to know everyone and sharing and receiving information about guide dogs on this list.
>> Have a great weekend.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Bianka Brankovic via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce myself and my guide dog.
>>>
>>> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs. My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>>>
>>> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>>>
>>> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or another.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Bianka
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/terraleepeterson%40gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NAGDU mailing list
>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/buddy%40brannan.name
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 4:01:18 PM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Haley,
> I can be reached at aleeha at nagdu.org <mailto:aleeha at nagdu.org>.
> Feel free to get in touch with me regarding a mentor for convention.
> I look forward to hearing from you!
> Aleeha
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 3:04 PM, NAGDU President via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Haley,
>>
>> Welcome to our list and your introduction. Two big tips I can offer
>> you is to connect with Aleeha Dudley and ask for a NAGDU mentor. She can
>> offer you all the details and having a mentor will help you navigate
>> convention with ease. The other tip is to attend the NAGDU meeting on July 2
>> from 7:00 - 10:00 pm in panzacola Ballroom F-2 Level 1! I hope to see you
>> there!
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Haley Sumner via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 10:05 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Haley Sumner
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>>
>> Hi fellow guide dog enthusiasts,
>>
>> My name is Haley Sumner, and I recently joined this list to provide support,
>> advice, and ask questions as all of us travel on our various journeys with
>> our four-legged friends. Last July, I received a beautiful, loving,
>> attentive, and sweet golden yellow lab cross named Ezzie from The Seeing
>> Eye, and as a lot of you can relate to, I haven't looked back since. I will
>> be a sophomore at butler University in the fall, and my guide adjusted to
>> the atmosphere beautifully and made the year all the more enjoyable.
>>
>> On Wednesday, Ezzie and I will be flying into Orlando for convention, and
>> because it is my first time attending with a dog, I am curious if you all
>> have any tips or suggestions to make our experience as wonderful and
>> stress-free as possible?
>>
>> Thanks so much, and I look forward to talking with you all soon,
>>
>> Haley Sumner
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NAGDU mailing list
>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
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>
>
>
>
> From: Terra Peterson <terraleepeterson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 4:17:45 PM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hi Buddy
> I've moved to Pennsylvania and now Tennessee since then. We've been here for three years. I hope you're doing well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Tara, I thought you were in California? Congratulations on the move :-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Terra Peterson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi y'all
>>> My name is Terra Peterson. I just joined this list. I live in Nashville Tennessee with my husband Michael and our guide dogs. I have a leader dog Named Sadona. She is a yellow lab. We have been a team for 2 years.
>>> I am looking forward to attending my first ever national convention next week and being at the NAGDU meeting.
>>> I look forward to getting to know everyone and sharing and receiving information about guide dogs on this list.
>>> Have a great weekend.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Bianka Brankovic via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce myself and my guide dog.
>>>>
>>>> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs. My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>>>>
>>>> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or another.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Bianka
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/terraleepeterson%40gmail.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/buddy%40brannan.name
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 5:06:32 PM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hi Bianka,
>
> Welcome to the list. We have lots of lively discussions with LOTS of
> participation. We all look forward to hearing from you when you feel like
> contributing.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
> Vice President, NAGDU
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bianka Brankovic
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: Melissa R Green via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bianka Brankovic <bianka at andi-bika.de>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>
> Hello list,
>
> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce
> myself and my guide dog.
>
> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs.
> My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide
> dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>
> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I
> started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and
> interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>
> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or
> another.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bianka
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NAGDU mailing list
> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/mike%40michaelhingson.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 25, 2016 at 5:08:58 PM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hi Bianka,
>
> Welcome to the list. We have lots of lively and active discussions going on
> so we will not bore you. We all look forward to your participation whenever
> you feel like it.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
> Vice President, NAGDU
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bianka Brankovic
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: Melissa R Green via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bianka Brankovic <bianka at andi-bika.de>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Introduction
>
> Hello list,
>
> I have joined this list about a week ago and I thought I might introduce
> myself and my guide dog.
>
> I am Bianka and I live in Germany with my husband and our two guide dogs.
> My dogs name is Aleska, she is a yellow lab and she was trained by a guide
> dog school near Basel, Switzerland.
>
> I guess I joined this list for mainly nostalgic reasons. Way back when I
> started thinking about having a guide dog I got a lot of help and
> interesting ideas from lists like Buddy-L.
>
> Hope for interesting discussions and maybe I can contribute one thing or
> another.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bianka
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NAGDU mailing list
> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/mike%40michaelhingson.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Bianka Brankovic <bianka at andi-bika.de>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 26, 2016 at 3:31:27 AM CDT
> To: Melissa R Green via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>
> Hi list,
>
> thanks for the warm welcome.
>
> It’s really interesting to observe the differences in the world regarding guide dog use. I will comment on them when it’s appropriate.
>
> One of the main differences is certainly that guide dog instruction is not done in a class setting but on a one to one basis. The school we trained with usually trains at the home of the handler from the start. but other schools divide the training into two parts. However, there is always some time at home to train with the instructor to learn the basic routes.
>
> Another difference is that we are supposed to give our dogs the possibility to run free in nature, parks, forests or fields. In GErmany we do not have the strict leash laws found in the U. S. And yes, off leash recall is a quite important skill if you want your dog to be able to run free.
>
> There is certainly more to tell but these are the two main things that came to mind.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bianka
>
>
>
>
> From: Claudia Lackerbauer <amethyst1974 at gmx.at>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Introduction
> Date: June 26, 2016 at 6:10:23 AM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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> Hello Bianka, hello list!
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> It's nice to see you on this list.
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> We already know each other form the german speaking mailing lists.
> For those, who don't know me: I am from Austria. I have my third guide
> dog. She is a female brown two and a half years old labrador retriever.
> Her name is Mira. She was trained by the Austrian guide dog school Karl Heinz Ferstl.
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> Regards,
> Claudia and Mira
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