[NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: i'm working, don't pet, vest

[d m gina]

Original I am thinking this is going to be a problem all of her life.
She is a people person as I am, so I do understand what she is doing,
I don't like it where if that is all I have to work with, then I am pleased.
I was told today she was very protective of me.
This was on my mile walk.
I kept her close to me while we were talking.
I do hope she will come out of this.
Thanks again,
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> Dar,

> It does help if the people being sniffed don't encourage it. Maybe you
> could ask some of those folks at church that she especially likes to
> sniff to be very disapproving when they tell you she's sniffing them? Or
> you could maybe ask people she especially likes to sniff to let you know
> they're there before you're close enough, so you can be ahead of the
> game. Then when she remembers not to sniff them, you know to praise her,
> and they can be approving, too. I know it sounds a little silly, but for
> social dogs, the smiles or frowns of their adoring public can add impact
> to what you're working on. Or detract from it, if they're all smiles and
> coos while you're trying to convince your dog that what she's doing is
> *not* cute. Sigh.

> I use the gentle leader to give me a clue what Loki's nose is doing and
> will use a light to moderate pull on it to redirect his nose if my
> verbal reminder doesn't work immediately. If he continues to sniff, I
> use my mean mom voice to repreat "leave it." If continues, I use my hand
> by or on his muzzle to physically move the nose back to where it should
> be, as I think you mentioned doing. For him, that counts as negative
> reinforcement, so I only use it when he has a sniffing trend going, and
> that seems to get him back on track and good as gold. By now, his
> *really* stubborn sniffing happens when we're walking by the dog and cat
> food section, so I sometimes have to time out or turn around and walk
> past it again. He's a lot better by now and even passed the food without
> trying to stop and sniff last time, so I was kinda lost because I didn't
> know we had passed it. /lol/ When I know we have passed something or
> someone he could have sniffed but didn't, I praise him mightily and
> occasionally add treats to reward his goodness.

> He's made a lot of improvement, with a jump in maturity to help, so
> that's nice. Most people he just passes by, although dog scent on pants
> is really tempting. After a period of being really good in a somewhat
> crowded store, he finally gave in and sniffed a couple of people who
> giggled and cooed, so then he backslid for a bit until I convinced him
> otherwise. I have a feeling that with this one, the friendliness is
> going to be something I'll have to watch out for for the duration. He's
> really very close to being where I want him to be, independently keeping
> himself to himself most of the time. Whew!

> Anyway, those are the low-energy, low-stress methods I use with my
> friendly fellow. One has to be really on the ball until the dog really
> learns the lesson, and it's fairly exhausting. Eventually, though, a
> body can relax and just go with the dog in crowds, so it's worth the
> extra work up front. Sniffing is self-rewarding, so it does take some
> time and consistency.

> Good luck!

> Tami



> On 03/05/2016 07:26 PM, d m gina via NAGDU wrote:
>> She takes off her own gentle leader, gets that paw rite up there and
>> pushes it off.
>> When she starts to fight me wanting to run because she hates it, I don't
>> have the strength to stop her.
>> I can feel my heart saying you used up all your energy.
>> Yes the leash is in my rite hand.
>> I questioned this at pilot where I would always get told just tell her no.
>> That doesn't work with her.
>> I'm pleased folks are starting to see at the church what she does to say
>> something to her.
>> Then she knows she is being watched.

>> Original message:
>>> I am wondering if you should put a gentle leader on her. Also,
>>> sometimes if you have the leash in one hand and the harness in the
>>> other, you can feel her start and stop it more quickly, and give her
>>> words that should leave no doubt in her mind that it isn't acceptable.
>>> Cindy


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>>> Subject: [NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: i'm working, don't pet, vest

>>> Yes she is a strong willed dog, and is going to do what she wishes to do.
>>> One lady told her this evening, you have a job quit sniffing.
>>> I shared visiting is her favorite thing, while standing in line to
>>> move forward.
>>> She does this as well when walking.
>>> I called her my social lite.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Only some of us are, apparently. Don't let that get to you though.
>>>> Miss Hildegard Vom Entwerfer Haus also has a very active nose that
>>>> sticks itself in inappropriate places. I don't always catch it,
>>>> although "subtle" isn't exactly in her vocabulary. Still, we
>>>> persevere, and things improve.

>>>> --
>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>>> Email: buddy at brannan.name




>>>>> On Mar 5, 2016, at 12:56 PM, dar via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Unfair question, I write on the list to get help on stopping a
>>>>> problem, then get asked why do I allow this to happen.
>>>>> What a list, I thought it was a list for questions. Glad all are
>>>>> perfect!!

>>>>> Dar
>>>>> Every saint has a past,
>>>>> Every sinner has a future


>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> just curious, why do you let her do this?  i sure would not want
>>>>>> someone’s dog sniffing or licking me if i was just riding a bus
>>>>>> somewhere.  and, if i really liked doggies a lot, i would most
>>>>>> certainly pet a dog if it was doing this.  even if it had a sign on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> ah well, i guess we each have our own way of doing things.  hmm.

>>>>>> Vivianna

>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2016, at 8:45 PM, d m gina via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> My girl wishes to sniff anyone she can, even put my hand down to
>>>>>>> see her nose on the ladies slacks.
>>>>>>> I move it and it goes rite back to where I moved it from.
>>>>>>> I keep telling folks that I am training her, and she doesn't need
>>>>>>> to do this.
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>> I have a sign that i had custom-made on my dog’s harness  it has a
>>>>>>>> picture of a hand with a red slash going through it.  it does
>>>>>>>> work for me.
>>>>>>>> i also believe that, if the dog does not solicit attention yu are
>>>>>>>> much less likely to have the problem.  i don’t allow my dog to
>>>>>>>> seek attention from people.  what’s the fun of petting a dog that
>>>>>>>> completely ignores you, or just keeps walking like you didn’t
>>>>>>>> exist.  lol.
>>>>>>>> just my opinion.

>>>>>>>> Vivianna

>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2016, at 7:40 PM, Christina Moore via NAGDU
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hi,

>>>>>>>>> From what I hear the vests do not really help much unfortunately.
>>>>>>>>> Someone with more experience with having a vest on their dog
>>>>>>>>> could probably give more insight to this though.
>>>>>>>>> Christina

>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Michael Babcock via NAGDU
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> does anyone have any suggestions for a vest to encourage not
>>>>>>>>>> petting?
>>>>>>>>>> I’m working with a lab from seeing eye, and want to get some
>>>>>>>>>> sort of sign or vest to discourage public from wanting to pet
>>>>>>>>>> my wonderful guide Titan.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any tips/advise, and i understand a sign won’t stop
>>>>>>>>>> everyone however maybe it will help with people randomly
>>>>>>>>>> petting and distracting.
>>>>>>>>>> best.

>>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Babcock
>>>>>>>>>> Consulting Blind entrepreneurs on digital marketing Your Own Pay
>>>>>>>>>> <http://yourownpay.com/> Lets Connect On Twitter @payown
>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/payown/> Or facebook Consulting with Michael
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