[NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: Taking really long walks

Wed May 4 18:05:15 UTC 2016

Lisa, Ask an exercise specialist, or ask your doctor to go into physical
therapy. So you can learn the exercises to strengthen those ankle muscles.
You will be surprised how well this will work if you keep on the exercises.
That goes for most of us with ankle problems, balance problems, also.  You
just need to move to strengthen the right set of muscles for better balance.

Becky who learned to balance with one foot in front of the other.  

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Oh Tracey I know exactly what you mean.  I had a really bad ankle twisting
fall last year just before I retired Katy and now it doesn't take much of a
crack, bump, or any other change of terrain to make that right ankle just
twist right out from under me.  I'm really afraid I'm going to lose my
reflexes one time and wind up with a broken ankle or worse.  Not to mention
that it's painful and there's a recovery time that takes away from work and
other things.  I've gotten really picky about what kinds of shoes I wear and
overly cautious about how fast I move, I guess.

Fun fun.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com

Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a
different one each day.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy Carcione via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: Taking really long walks

>I sure wish Krokus was better about those parallel cracks.  That's 
>where I  really fell, taking a bad step on a parallel crack.  Krokus 
>does not do so  well with those.
> I used not to fall a lot, though I've always had weak ankles.  But, 
>for  some  reason, as I get older, I don't catch myself as well when I 
>stumble, and  sometimes I fall down.  My older friends say it's the 
>same for them.  It's  a  drag getting old, but it beats the 
>alternative.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle 
> Sykora via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: Taking really long walks
>
> Interesting. I feel like my dog does a really good job with uneven 
> surfaces.
> We have some of those uneven sidewalks mostly due to tree roots around 
> here as well and I take my dog hiking about every other month and he 
> does a fantastic job of distinguishing what we can just walk over, 
> when we need to walk a little more slowly, and what requires an actual 
> stop/pause. Sure, Thai did improve over the first six months or so 
> home as the bonding and maturity kicked in, but he even did a good job 
> during class. I remember one particular walk during class where the 
> trainer specifically talked about how Thai was supposed to not only be 
> careful of cracks that cut across the sidewalk perpendicular to my 
> line of travel, but also those that run parallel to the sidewalk. 
> Stopping for changes in elevation has always been one of the tasks 
> that my dog excels at, but I'm not really one to fall in the first 
> place. Obviously I don't have anything to compare to though with Thai 
> being my first dog.
>
> Danielle and Thai
>
> On 4/27/16, Lisa Belville via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hey there, Dan, Lisa with the other GDA P Dog.
>>
>> Yep, couldn't agree more.  I feel like I'm going into "Old Fart" 
>> Mode, but it really does seem that there's less attention to fine 
>> guiding detail then
>>
>> there was when I got my first dog 20 years ago.  I think it's an 
>> across the
>>
>> board thing and not a school specific thing.
>>
>> Paige is very careful with large cracks or just chunky side walks.  
>> It helped that I tripped and did fall once with her during training, 
>> so she got
>>
>> instant feedback from me and her primary trainer at the time.
>>
>> I'm not sure if any school would ever go on record as recommending 
>> this, but
>>
>> I've heard tales of people faking out the dog by making it seem like 
>> they've
>>
>> fallen or Benn slammed into something by the dog and then really 
>> lathering on the correction, not necessarily just leash ones, but 
>> really guilt tripping the dog.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>
>> Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a 
>> different one each day.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dan Weiner via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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>> Cc: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>
>>
>>> That's an interesting question, Tracey...I have noticed last few 
>>> times around at guide dog school that the dogs were not careful 
>>> about stopping for changes of surface or cracks at all, all right, 
>>> every little crack, that's
>>>
>>> a
>>> judgment ccall maybe but changes in surface could be a problem or 
>>> little steps or raised or falling areas.  I've worked wit my pups 
>>> when I get home an dwe have a happy medium but I have wondered about 
>>> that, I don't think my memory was failing me, I thin that 22 years 
>>> ago when I got my first dog the dogs were made to be more careful.
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Dan the man with Parker the nut
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:24 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>>
>>> I got scraped up, but nothing broken, and now he's more careful.
>>> My neighborhood has a lot of cracked sidewalks because we have a lot 
>>> of large trees.  Trees are good; cracked sidewalks not so much.
>>> My dogs have all had to learn how to operate here.  If they stopped 
>>> for every crack, we'd never get anywhere, but, if they don't stop 
>>> for the worst ones, I trip.  I suppose I could learn to goose-step, 
>>> picking my feet way up, but I would feel ridiculous.  So my guys 
>>> learn what will trip me, and what probably won't.
>>> I was happy to find a whole section of sidewalk the town had repaired.
>>> Wish
>>> they'd do more, but people around here are more interested in 
>>> streets than sidewalks.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina 
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:46 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
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>>> Original I am so sorry you fell.
>>> I hope you didn't brake anything.
>>> Maybe the next time you go to that area, your dog will slow down.
>>> Wishing you the best.
>>> message:
>>>> The fall is not OK, but there is no foolproof travel method. I 
>>>> missed a turn in a slanted and broken curb the other day and fell. 
>>>> I have fallen using my dog, too. It happens. What is not OK for me 
>>>> is if it happens because the dog is distracted by, say, other dogs.
>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>
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>>>> Gazer via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 2:02 PM
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>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>>
>>>>                         The fall would not be ok with me. I know, 
>>>> easy for me to say since I don't have any emotions invested in the 
>>>> two of you.
>>>> Is his pace comfortable for you?
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 1:44 PM
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>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>>
>>>> The hiker says he works his dog 10-15 miles every day.  I was 
>>>> thinking about that.  His dog must have a good pace, or he's got a 
>>>> lot of free time.  Maybe he counts it as work time, keeping in 
>>>> shape for
> hiking.
>>>
>>>> Krokus takes about 90 minutes to go 3 miles, though that includes 
>>>> many street crossings and a lot of cracked sidewalks.  Even so, 
>>>> he's a bit more of a stroller than I'd prefer.  On the other hand, 
>>>> I have tripped over a big crack and landed hard, which isn't any fun at
all.
>>>
>>>> I think Krokus is just a guy who needs some time to react.  He can 
>>>> dodge someone rushing out from a shop we're passing, but he'd 
>>>> prefer to have some time to plan his moves.  Or maybe I'm making 
>>>> excuses for his
>>> ambling self.
>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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