[NAGDU] Thanksgiving

Tue Nov 15 21:54:49 UTC 2016

Well I didn't generalize, but fact is I was there and a lot of people in
Japan like dogs ffrom a far but aren't used to guide doggs or big dogs in
their houses, so there. A, you take off your shoes when entering a house and
dogs don't have shoes--lol so there's a sstink about that which is usually
sovolved by you wiping or washing yoru dog's feet: 2.  there sis an
obsession with cleanliness, which perhaps iis in word rather than deed, I
found so much dust and so on in Japanese peoples' apartments but dog hair
iss aparently not desirable--smile.
So nothing surprises me, anyone who wants to call me out on it, go right
ahead, I'm here for you totake pot shots at, I was in Japan close to two
years with my guide dog I know of what I speak.

Enjoy the day.

Dan the man

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Yes, I would be very careful about generalizing, especially when you are in
a public forum such as this.

Cindy

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I've been to Japan, it doesn't surprise me--loll  though there area lot of
Japanese who are authentic dog lovers so I shouldn't generalize.

Dan the man

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This happened to Kevin and his former wife. When they went to Thanksgiving
at the Japanese part of the family, his guide dog was refused. You know
white carpet, white furniture, she would bring shame to her husband if there
was a spec of dirt anywhere in her home. You do not wear shoes in her home
and so forth. Kevin spent Thanksgiving in the car with his guide dog. Family
would come trailing out to sit with him, bring him food, that sort of stuff.
The next year she relented and put a blanket at in her front door, but the
dog could not put a paw off that blanket on her white carpet. At least he
got to eat with his family and out laws.  It was degrading. He felt like a
very unwelcome stranger, instead of a brother in law.   

Becky
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She could also wander off if the fence isn't secure or gate isn't closed. If
she gets anxious out there in a strange yard, strange place, and strange
lots of things without you, she could get into serious trouble. 

The first words that came to mind when I read the original posts were
"Awwwww, hell no!" Sadly, be prepared for a flat out refusal should she not
be willing to let you have Becky with you on leash in her house, and be also
prepared to react accordingly. Some people may be willing to give once they
understand that your dog will not be running around the house breaking
things, but some people are just absolutely adamant, no dogs, period amen.
Which is their right, but they can't be too upset or think you're being
unreasonable or what have you if you choose not to participate. 

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy at brannan.name

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> 			No, you are not. Aside from the warm and fuzzies of
having Becky 
> with you, it just isn't safe, she could be stolen, eat something that 
> isn't healthy, those are the two things that come to mind.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Berkley
via
> NAGDU
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> Cc: Elise Berkley <bravaegf at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
> 
> Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health 
> insurance for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know 
> what to do. My husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's 
> house. Where they live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we 
> go down that way, we
end
> up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my sister-in-law. She said it was 
> alright for me to bring Becky, but she does not like dogs in the house.
So,
> I would have to put Becky outside while we were in the house. Becky is 
> not an outside dog. And, I would feel like crap with my dog, the 
> loveof my
life,
> outside while I was sitting in the house with family. I really do not 
> know what to do. Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a 
> mountain out
of
> a molehill? Please, I need help with this.
> 
> Elise and Becky
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