[NAGDU] New equipment! YEEEEEHAAAAAAA!!!!!

d m gina dmgina at sero.email
Sun Nov 20 16:09:52 UTC 2016


Original Hello,
Here is what I did
I took a link out of the prong collar.
This sits rite under chin.
I healed her where she gave no pull at all, just healed.
I don't think we are going anywhere today, where I feel this will 
control her head.
Then She will listen to me better.
She likes wearing this silly thing even if she pulls into it.
I am sure she will think twice under chin.
You have no clue how much this means that trying anything wil help me 
keep a dog I truly love, we just have to help her not be as strong for 
me as she is.
I hope I can find the plastic prong collar.
Julie if you come up with one, let me be the first to use it.
I had one from pilot where I don't have it any more.
Thanks again.
How do other schools feel about this, could I use this at conference?
Or would I be in lots of trouble.
Do the schools consider this as a gentle leader, helping the dog?
Just some thoughts.
message:
> Hi Dar.
> So sorry to hear you fell off the curb.  I've had similar problems with 
> Krokus, with him going too close to edges sometimes, though we've been 
> working on it, and it is a lot better.
> Krokus is 3 now, and we're still working on stuff.
> I guess when you say over the nose doesn't work that you've tried the 
> gentle leader?  It seems to work pretty well with Krokus, but it didn't 
> work at all with Ben.  Ben would pretty much just stop moving when I 
> put the GL on him.
> With Krokus, if I don't want to use the GL, it seems to help a lot to 
> tuck the leash up under my harness hand so there's not much slack, so, 
> when he goes to sniff or grab something, he gives himself a bit of a 
> correction, or at least he notices.  As you know, Seeing Eye leashes 
> are short to begin with, but I still have to pull it in quite a bit.  I 
> want it so it's not actually tight, unless he puts his head down.
> HTH.
> Tracy


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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New equipment! YEEEEEHAAAAAAA!!!!!

> Why is it called a sports harness, do you like it better than the regular one.
> My dog gets to a place and nose goes on the ground or carpet in a building.
> I try to stop her but that is out of the question until she thinks she 
> is done to see if there is anything for her to pick up first.
> I had a person walk away because they didn't like the way I was 
> training the dog.
> Using anything over the nose just doesn't work, I am not strong enough 
> to fight her.
> She knows this.
> She also doesn't listen to the the prong collar, she feels when she is 
> good and ready to listen she does.
> We do everything that is sugested.
> My husband feels this lady here in town is to expensive.
> The other day I twisted my ankle falling off a curb because we wanted 
> to visit with the uber driver.
> I screamed was worried my face would hit the car, glad it didn't.
> She got truly corrected.
> When wwalking and someone comes by on the left side sniffing is what you do.
> I even take my knee and bump her on the side to get her back to working 
> mode again.
> I was told to get a smaller collar as I did, but all that does is when 
> correcting she gets it that she needs to stop doing what she was told to stop.
> Where I will stop when I am ready.
> She gets lots of loving playing when we can play outside, quite cold now.
> We also play in the house to get rid of energy.
> I am told give her to three she will grow up really?
> What happens when she turns four loll.
> on a one to one she is good, she wants to do what ever I request.
> So I love reading this stuff to see if there is just one more thing 
> that I could buy that would help me out.
> Now I know one shouldn't call the dog a bad name, trust me, when I 
> landed on the ankel I echoed all the way down the block.
> A couple came by thinking that the driver pushed me down, where he didn't.
> I am afraid of curbs and steps for this reason.
> Ok my rant is over, I am sure I will be blamed for all of it and that is fine.
> Until the shoes I wear are walked in, the blame can't be all of me, and 
> I don't give up I will keep trying.

> Original message:
>> Buddy:
>> thanks for sharing  this, and i need to check out that harness:)
>> hoping your well, and keep the wonderful work up!

>>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Posted to Hilde's blog yesterday. Feel free to share. I'm happy to
>>> too Julie's horn for her :-) (since she sort of can't on this
>>> list...) No financial interest and all that jazz.

>>> New Equipment! YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAA!!!!

>>> November 18, 2016
>>> We interrupt this streak of not posting anything with a post.

>>> Ooh…a post? Really? Maybe I’ll post about our trip to the NFBP
>>> convention next, but this isn’t that post.

>>> Over the past few weeks, I’ve gotten some gear from Julie Johnson,
>>> whose site can be found at http://guide-and-service-dogs.com/.
>>> Besides useful information, Julie manufactures a line of some dead
>>> useful things at really good prices. You can also buy from Amazon if
>>> you like, as she sells there. I’ve gotten a few of them that I’d like 
>>> to talk about.

>>> I’ll briefly mention the first aid kit, which doesn’t appear to be on
>>> her site. It’s a handy zippered bag full of, surprisingly, first aid
>>> supplies. There are bandages, ointment, vet wrap, and an emergency
>>> blanket. It’s a handy size to stash either in your home or in your
>>> luggage for travel.

>>> Next, the collar bells are a pretty good idea for keeping track of
>>> your dog around the house, so that s/he will (theoretically) stay out
>>> of trouble. Julie sent me a set in trade for an honest review, and
>>> then Amazon changed their review rules. Still, I’ll happily give an
>>> honest review for them anyway. These are just your standard jingle
>>> bells on a nylon strap with side release buckle. The set comes with 
>>> three sizes:
>>> one set with two very small bells, a medium sized bell, and a larger
>>> bell, each on its own strap. These would be great for a fairly quiet
>>> indoor environment. The bells aren’t very loud, so they wouldn’t be
>>> appropriate for outdoor use. The strap is only a couple inches long,
>>> with the plastic side release buckle closure, sort of like the
>>> buckles that snap your backpack together. Be aware, however, that
>>> these buckles are very small, so if you have dexterity issues, you
>>> may have trouble with them. The set I have is not adjustable, but
>>> Julie is thinking about making some that can be shortened if
>>> necessary. These would be most appropriate on a flat collar; just put
>>> the strap around the width of the collar and close, letting them hang
>>> down. I don’t think these would work very well with a slip collar,
>>> though they might with a martingale collar. I can usually hear these,
>>> when Fiona isn’t barking loudly, or if Hilde is not in stealth mode, so 
>>> they’re pretty handy.
>>> I’d probably get louder bells, just because we have some loud
>>> household members, but it wouldn’t matter a lot, because this dog can
>>> move unbelievably quietly.

>>> There are two things that a guide dog user must have. OK, three. One
>>> is a collar of some kind. Hilde wears both a flat collar, for tags,
>>> and a training collar, either a toggle collar or a prong collar, depending.
>>> Julie has flat collars and martingale collars, but I don’t have
>>> either one of those. I do have a collar with Hilde’s name and my
>>> phone number on it, in case she gets lost. This collar also has
>>> reflective stuff on it. I have a link somewhere if anyone’s interested.

>>> But the other two things that a guide dog handler really has to have
>>> are a leash and a harness. Julie makes both out of quality nylon
>>> webbing. We’re most of us used to leather, and leather is really nice.
>>> I have a leather harness as well, and it’s great. Durable, classy,
>>> practical, fairly easy to maintain. Nylon, however, also has
>>> advantages. It’s light weight and even easier to clean, and don’t
>>> forget, it’s also inexpensive. I’ve used a nylon harness over the
>>> past six or seven years on and off. I like them especially for these
>>> Erie winters with all the dirt and grit and road salt and heavens
>>> only know what. So really, don’t discount the nylon.

>>> First, the leash. You can get any length you like. I prefer shorter
>>> leashes, such as the Seeing Eye uses, about four feet long when in
>>> its extended long leash length. However, you can get one that’s 5 or
>>> 6 feet if you prefer.

>>> Julie does something kind of neat, for which I will take at least
>>> partial credit. I say partial because I think there’s a school that
>>> does the same thing, but I can’t remember which one.

>>> I’m lazy. So last year, when Hilde was a pup, I called Handcraft
>>> Collars to ask if they could make me some guide dog leashes out of
>>> tubular nylon. I had to describe what I wanted. So, instead of the
>>> usual arrangement where you can hook to one ring for a short leash,
>>> towards the bottom snap, and another ring near the top, for a long
>>> leash, I just had Debbie put in one ring at the bottom, to make a
>>> short leash, while leaving a standard handle with the bolt snap
>>> strung on the end of the handle. That way, all you have to do to get
>>> a long leash is disconnect from the bottom ring. Several months
>>> later, I told Julie about that, she said, “Hey, why didn’t I think of
>>> that?”, and thus, the Quick Convert Service Dog Leash was born.

>>> I now have one of those, too. It’s a little heavier than the ones
>>> from Handcraft. Still, the stitching is quality, as is the hardware.
>>> Rather than a standard ring, Julie uses a D-ring. The bolt snaps are
>>> heavy duty ones, thicker than the ones on my Handcraft leashes. She
>>> uses nylon webbing, which is a bit grippier than the very slippery
>>> tubular nylon is, as well as a bit wider. Actually, the 3/4 inch
>>> width is as close to perfect as it gets. It’s good stuff, and I
>>> highly recommend these, and not just because it was sort of my lazy
>>> idea. Sort of. I stole it from somewhere else. Southeastern maybe?

>>> Finally, the harness. I’m a budding guide dog equipment nerd. I love
>>> guide dog equipment. I’d love to see all sorts of different harness
>>> designs. Even so, I have very definite opinions on what makes a good
>>> harness. Of course, it has to be as comfortable as possible for the
>>> dog. Ease of putting on and taking off is desirable. A removable
>>> handle is a definite plus, and, while I wouldn’t say I’d never have a
>>> harness without a removable handle, I’ll always take a removable
>>> handle over a fixed handle. One thing that’s an absolute deal
>>> breaker, however, is the martingale strap. Ever since I got my first
>>> Seeing Eye dog, I have gotten very spoiled by this seemingly simple
>>> extra strap that runs between the dog’s front legs, from the belly
>>> strap to the chest strap in whatever configuration. Besides giving
>>> the dog more to pull into, the extra strap stabilizes the harness’s
>>> movement from side to side (so it doesn’t move so much), and makes it
>>> harder for your dog to accidentally back out of the harness.

>>> The Sports Style Guide Harness meets all of these requirements. This
>>> is the second harness of this design that I’ve owned, and Julie has
>>> made some improvements. It’s made with wide 2-inch nylon straps and
>>> comes in several different colors. For Hilde, I got it in blue. The
>>> harness straps are padded to make it more comfortable for the dog to wear.
>>> You’ll notice right away that the design of the harness is different
>>> from most guide dog schools. Instead of one strap that goes around
>>> the chest from one side of the dog to the other, the harness is made
>>> with two straps that run from the back strap, over the dog’s
>>> shoulders, and meeting in the center of the dog’s chest at the
>>> breastbone. The martingale strap then runs back from this juncture,
>>> such that the three straps form something like a print letter Y.
>>> You’ll also notice the absence of handle stabilizing loops, or “bunny
>>> ears” that are present on most American harnesses. This isn’t nearly
>>> as scary as you might suppose. While it does afford the opportunity
>>> for more freedom of movement for the dog, the new handle has a much
>>> more rigid connection with the harness, so the handle really isn’t in
>>> a lot of danger of flipping up too high as it could with the previous
>>> PVC handle. Anyway, since there are no loops, there’s less bulk, and
>>> less bulk for your dog to have to lie on, which sounds a lot more
>>> comfortable. The belly strap is adjustable with a sliding buckle, and
>>> closes at the right side with a plastic side release buckle of the
>>> sort that you’d use to close a backpack. This buckle is quite large and sturdy.

>>> The handle, as I said, is an improvement over the previous generation.
>>> The new handles are made of a flat metal stock wrapped in nylon. It
>>> is removable, attaching to the harness with plastic side release buckles.
>>> Don’t let that put you off, however; I’ve used a harness with similar
>>> handle attachments for a while with no problems. The buckles are
>>> sturdy and I’ve never had one disconnect during travel. Julie has
>>> also put a comfortable rubber handgrip on the handle, with finger
>>> grooves in the front. It’s a very comfortable grip, even for a dog
>>> with quite a bit of pull. I'd maybe prefer a bit more of a rounded
>>> grip, maybe a little padding under the grip, but even with that, I
>>> like it. You’ll have absolutely no trouble following your dog due to
>>> “sloppy” handle connections, because the connections are definitely
>>> not sloppy and don’t have excessive play in them at all. Highly
>>> recommended, especially for the price.

>>> Anyway, if you’re owner training, or if you just need or want
>>> alternative equipment, give these a look. You won’t be sorry.

>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>> Email: buddy at brannan.name







>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>> Email: buddy at brannan.name





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