[NAGDU] Staying together

Buddy Brannan buddy at brannan.name
Fri Sep 2 12:54:21 UTC 2016


Follow can be very useful. Like following your host/hostess through a restaurant to a table, for example. Definitely a useful skill. But I have absolutely no problems with using a human guide and heeling my dog sometimes either. 

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Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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> On Sep 2, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Dan Weiner via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Oh, I got it, you're talking about the specific question where you are
> trying to stay together say in a crowd. I totally get it and actually do
> likewise, I just thought you guys were diparraging follow as
> such..lol..because I hve found follow to be a very useful tool.
> You take care.
> 
> Dan and Tropical Storm Hermine, whether I like her or not, she's dumping
> rain--lol.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Staying together
> 
> I kind of agree with Rebecca on this. Follow is fine, except when you're in
> a big, noisy place that you can't really track who you're meant to follow
> and thus, don't know if your dog really is or not. If I'm with a sighted
> friend, I will often walk sighted guide and heel my dog because, first, it's
> easier to stay with the person that way (and they're not spending most of
> the time trying to keep track of us/directing us), and second, it's a whole
> lot more companionable and much easier to keep a conversation going when
> you're not always having to manage your dog. Different strokes, I suppose. 
> 
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194
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> Email: buddy at brannan.name
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 8:20 AM, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 			Interesting how we are all different. I truly
>> *hated* the follow command. Sighted guide didn't and doesn't bother me a
>> bit. 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Grider
> via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 10:12 AM
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>> Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Staying together
>> 
>> Since he is your husband, linking arms or holding hands would be totally
>> acceptible. Someone else, maybe not, but there is always sighted guide. I
>> personally don't like cited guide because I don't like feeling that I am
> not
>> in control of where I am going, but I think in this case where it is only
>> being used for two blind people to stay together, it may be a good
> solution.
>> I will link arms with my  sighted mother sometimes when we are in a
> crowded
>> area just to stay together, but she is the only person I will do that with
>> because she is my mother.
>> 
>> Another thought: could you go behind your husband and give your dog a
> follow
>> command? If someone is showing me where to go, like for example if I am in
> a
>> store and someone from customer service is helping me find things, I can
> go
>> behind the person with my dog and tell her to follow. The same thing if I
> am
>> in a large group of people walking somewhere and there are people in front
>> of me in my group. I don't like doing that often, But it works in some
>> cases.
>> 
>> http//www.rachelgrider.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 06:29, Jody Ianuzzi via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Tracy,
>>> 
>>> Why don't you walk cited guide. Or you could  walk arm in arm.  That
> would
>> be acceptable even if you both could see.
>>> 
>>> JODY
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> My husband Jerry uses a cane, and I of course use a guide dog.  My 
>>>> husband has lost a lot of vision, and we are having trouble staying 
>>>> together when passing through big, open spaces, like fancy hotel 
>>>> lobbies or the bus terminal.  Either Krokus gets into a groove and 
>>>> Jerry can't keep up, or Krokus starts screwing around and Jerry goes 
>>>> off ahead.  Sometimes I grab Jerry's hand and pull him along, or we
> start
>> calling loudly to each other.
>>>> Neither one feels very dignified.  
>>>> 
>>>> Do people have methods that work to keep a cane user and a dog user 
>>>> in contact?  I've heard some people wear a bell, but does that really 
>>>> work, in an open, noisy environment?
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to figure out something that works, and doesn't make us both 
>>>> feel ridiculous.
>>>> 
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
>>>> 
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