[NAGDU] training my own again
Tracy Carcione
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Wed Apr 5 19:01:10 UTC 2017
FWIW, my vote goes to Other Boy. He was calm, but he was willing to go with you.
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Hi all.
They are raised with other dogs, the kenel staff is there as well. they have been handled, had their nails clipped, etc. they don’t seem people shy at all.
When i pushed down on their butts they all sat and stayed there. when i put them on a leash and tried to get them to come with me a couple steps, huge boy kept looking back at the kennel and then hung his head and didn’t move. no tail girl took a couple steps and then lay down with her little head down. and, other boy walked with me about 8 feet then i stopped and he sat and, when i took the leash and cloth collar off he lay down by me and didn’t move until i stopped touching him and was looking at one of the other pups.
that’s why i am having a hard time between the boy and the no tail girl. lol. poor girlie, she’s handicapped.
they all were perfectly fine with me picking up their paws and messing with their ears and touching them all over.
i think the temperament is really solid on these dogs.
they sure are not what i am used to though. nothing like the american dobies lol.
Vivianna
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> My opinion agrees with Cindy's opinion. Sometimes I think the dog knows, and that should be taken into some account. Nice that they're none of them noise shy, though being kennel raised is a bit concerning. How much exposureeto humans does that mean they've had? That's pretty important, especially early on.
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>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:12 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> I vote for the no tail girl. She sounds really sweet, and you said she had a calm temperament. Of course you haven’t been able to do a lot of other testing on any of them. Still, I just really like the sound of her. This is my uneducated, scientific opinion.
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>> OK, well, here’s the puppy story.
>> So, i went to see the puppies yesterday. These are european dobermans, and, i’ll tell you guys, these are some big dogs. they look very different from the american doberman that i worked with for 10 years. the bone on these guys is amazing, the muscle is heavy, the muzzle is shorter and much wider, the head is broader, well, the entire dog is broader.
>> the breeder pulled out a gun and shot it right there and the pups didn’t even look. heh. they were all running around in an open field and, when they came to me they were very calm. no licking, biting my hands, jumping, barking etc.
>> there were 2 boys but, i think that 1 will be to big. he will prob reach 29 or 30 inches and be 100 pounds easy. the other boy was tall but not as heavy. he will prob reach 28 29 inches and 90 pounds or so.
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>> there was3 girls, 1 the breeder thought would have to much drive. the one that came to me right away, even before playing with the other pups was very stout and heavily boned but will prob only be around 24 inches at the shoulder, but, the vet screwed up her tail and, she has no tail at all. the 3rd girl did not come up to me until i was there a long time but, she was calm when she did, she will prob be 24 26 inches and slightly longer body than the no tail girl.
>> they all have very solid temperaments, no quivering, barking, etc. they have been kennel raised and not in the home. the place was brand new, clean and pretty fancy.
>> i did get to meet the parents and they were some big dogs. lol.
>> every one of the pups would sit and stay sitting when i asked them to with a push on their butts.
>> but, i’ll tell you, the paws on those boy pups were twice the size of my 88 pound GSD. lol.
>> it’s super hard to choose but, i tentatively chose the smaller boy. but, i do like the no tail girl too. lol. she kept coming up to me instead of playing with the other puppies. i know that they say not to let stuff like that sway you and go by temperament but, it’s so hard to tell. lol.
>> Well, there you go. Any comments welcome.
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>> Take care;
>> Vivianna
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>> On Apr 2, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Mardi Hadfield via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
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>> Vivianna, When I house broke Sedona, I just took her out side to the
>> same place every time and waited until she went. I would then say
>> good potty and give her a treat. I gave her a chance to sniff the
>> area but kept her in that area. It did not take long for her to get
>> the idea. I now just open the door and let her out in my vast fenced
>> yard and she heads to the back yard to do her thing. I kept her
>> crated when I could not watch her in the house and she did
>> occasionally pee in the crate if I did not get her out in time. She will whine and bark to let me know she wants out. so it is up to
>> me to get her out in time. Hope this is helpful. Mardi and
>> Shaman,retired and Neechee,GD and Sedona,GDIT. PS Shaman was 10 months
>> old when I rescued him from a shelter. He had no training whatsoever.
>> I did the same thing I did with Sedona when House breaking and he was
>> house broken in 3 weeks with no accidents. He learned every thing pretty fast.
>> He had not been socialized but he did learn that while he was being
>> trained as I worked in dog friendly places as well as people places,
>> like shopping malls.After he was attacked several times he became dog
>> reactive and I did work through it, but ended up using an electric
>> collar to get him over his reactivity. Nothing else had worked so I
>> chose to use that method and It only took 2 zaps and he no longer had
>> a problem. I don't think the age that I started his training had
>> anything to do with his reactive problem . I think it was just his
>> personality, and the fact that he was socialized at a later age ,and
>> the E collar was the only thing that helped shape that part of his personality.
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