[NAGDU] International travel with a guide dog

Thu Apr 6 01:43:39 UTC 2017

Oh, I think I suspected they did. Of course when I got mine we had the right
of refusal.
Cindy

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David:

Not all guide dog schools microchip their dogs.

Sandra

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] International travel with a guide dog

When you get your pup, your guide dog school will microchip your dog with
the chip that is used in the U.S.  You can ask them to chip it with the
microchip that is used in Europe, as well.

David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL

On 4/5/2017 10:40 AM, Miranda B. via NAGDU wrote:
> Hi Alysha,
> Thanks for sharing about your recent overseas experience with your 
> guide dog. I do have a few follow-up questions.
> Who provides the microchip, and what is the average cost? Is there a 
> timeframe in which this microchip should be inserted prior to 
> international travel? Would it be a good idea to consider this 
> microchip for future international trips, even if one is not scheduled 
> at the time of getting the chip?
> Also, what is the best way to learn about the laws inside the 
> destination or layover countries regarding public access, ETC? Does 
> the below site detail these laws?
> Thanks again for sharing your thoughts, and have a wonderful week!
>
> Best wishes, Miranda
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] International travel with a guide dog
>
> Hi Miranda,
> I just returned from a 9 day trip to Portugal with my guide dog, Xylon.
> Overall, it was a good experience, and I am glad I brought him with me. 
> Most
> countries in the EU have the same requirements for entry with a dog, 
> although a few of them have additional requirements. This is a great 
> website where you can look up the exact requirements for traveling 
> with a dog to specific countries:
> https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/pet-travel
> For the Portugal trip, Xylon needed to have been given a Rabies 
> vaccine while he was also microchipped. Since his last Rabies vaccine 
> was given before he got his microchip, I had to give him his next 
> Rabies vaccine earlier than I otherwise would have in order for him to go
on the trip.
> Also, I had to get an international health certificate filled out by 
> my vet within 10 days of entering Portugal, and I had to FedEx it to a 
> USDA office to be endorsed. The USDA will waive the fee for endorsing 
> health certificates if you submit an ID card showing that it is for a 
> service animal. One quick word of warning is that if you have a 
> layover in another country, you may also have to meet their specific 
> requirements in addition to those of your final destination. I 
> originally planned to connect in Heathrow, but their requirements were 
> kind of crazy, so I got different flights connecting in the US 
> instead.
>
> When I arrived in Portugal, I met with the vet at the airport who 
> reviewed my documentation and signed off on the paperwork. There is 
> also a fee to enter Portugal with a dog, but it was waived for us 
> since he is a guide dog.
> I again showed my Seeing Eye ID card as documentation to have the fee 
> waived.
>
> Overseas flights can be hard on dogs because they must spend a long 
> time in very cramped quarters without being able to relieve themselves 
> and with restricted access to water. The longest leg of my flight was 
> 8 hours, and I'm not sure I would be comfortable putting Xylon through 
> anything too much longer than that. Luckily I was able to take him out 
> to relieve during my layovers, and he is a great plane traveler.
>
> I had very few access issues in Portugal, and on the 2 occasions where 
> businesses were reluctant to let us in, the situation was quickly and 
> easily resolved. They have laws in place allowing people with service 
> animals the right to enter any public place, similar to the US. 
> Everyone seemed to be familiar with guide dogs and was very welcoming 
> to us. However, people often tried to pet him in harness, and my 
> language skills weren't always good enough to politely tell them to 
> stop because he was working. I notified pretty much everyone (hotel, 
> tours, meeting facility, etc.) in advance that I was bringing a dog. I 
> don't typically do this in the US but wasn't as confident with the 
> laws in Portugal.
>
> There are a lot of considerations that I would take into account when 
> deciding whether or not to bring a dog on a trip overseas, e.g. length 
> of the flight, your dog's tolerance of travel/breaks in routine, how 
> easily available your dog's food and safe drinking water would be, 
> whether or not the country is known to have a large number of loose 
> dogs in the streets, access to veterinary care if needed, access laws, 
> cultural attitudes toward dogs, quarantine requirements, length of the 
> trip, etc. I don't know if I can give a specific age at which I think 
> a dog would generally be ready for a trip like this, but I do think 
> it's valuable for you to have traveled multiple times domestically 
> with your dog before going abroad. I would personally really try to 
> minimize the amount of time away from your dog in especially the first 
> year or two of your partnership. A 1-week trip would probably be fine, 
> but taking several 1-week trips without your dog will likely 
> negatively impact your working relationship. The longest I have left 
> Xylon is 4 days, and he's now 3 years old.
>
> Anyway, just my 2 cents. Hope it was helpful, and best of luck to you 
> in whatever you decide!
>
> Alysha
>
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>
> Hi,
> I am considering getting a guy dog, but I am also an undergraduate 
> student looking at internship opportunities overseas within the next
couple years.
> I'm wondering how practical it would be to get a guy dog prior to a 
> semester abroad, or if it would be better to wait until I graduate and 
> would only be traveling on a less frequent basis for more short-term 
> opportunities (10
> days-1 month). If traveling to a country that would pose undo hardship 
> or extreme complications, I have considered leaving the dog at home 
> with my husband for more of a short-term trip (10 days or less). In 
> other words, the practicality of taking a dog overseas would need to 
> be considered on a case-by-case basis.
> If you've traveled overseas with your guidedog, where did you go and 
> for how long? What are some other factors to consider when traveling 
> abroad with a guy dog?
> Thanks for your help, and have a wonderful week!
>
> Best wishes, Miranda
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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