[NAGDU] OK, i chose!

Sun Apr 9 18:17:55 UTC 2017

hmm.  with all of this talking, i truly think i’d rather be safe than sorry later on.  i think i will wait to spay her.  
i want the bones to grow together correctly and i want to minimize the chance of bladder leakage.  
my last dobe had that but, not until she was about 9.

Vivianna

> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Tami Jarvis via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Vivanna,
> 
> Hm... I don't think there's a hard and fast answer. Another thing to consider is that spaying may affect her hormones for some time afterwards, which could mean more brains falling out. She'll be about the age of frequent loss of brain anyway, so it may be hard to tell. /lol/ I had Mitzi spayed at around 8 months, which was only a month of thereabouts after she came to me. So I don't remember if her behavior changed as a result of spaying or not. I had Loki neutered at around 11 months, and he definitely turned into a dingbat for about 6 weeks. I wanted to wait longer than I did with him, but it was spring and good training time, and he had gotten strong enough I worried what might happen if he discovered True Love across a busy street. So snip, snip!
> 
> So at 7 months in June, spaying shouldn't do great harm. It's a question of wagering whether she'll go into heat at convention, I guess vs. possible advantages of waiting.
> 
> Have you picked her up yet, and is she home with you?
> 
> Tami
> 
> On 04/09/2017 09:17 AM, Vivianna via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> i am glad to know that the schools are waiting now.  back in the 90’s they were altering really early.  at least some of them.
>> i have been reading and i find everything from, over 3 months to 3 years.  but, no way do i want an intact girl working.  that would not be so good.  heh.  talk about dog distractions.
>> the contract does not state when i have to have her spayed.
>> hmmmm, she will be 8 months old in july, right during convention.  is it worth waiting and hoping she doesn’t go into heat?  i guess it can be very messy and i am certain it would be no fun in a hotel room.  and, just imagine,  with all those guide dogs there.  nope, not for me.
>> i guess, technically, i could wait until june.  do you folks think that would make that much of a difference?
>> The vet has no problems spaying her now.  but, i don’t want to end up with a dog that didn’t grow right or has urine leakage problems.  she is already around 40-45 pounds.
>> i’m thinking she will need to wear a cone for about 10 days right?
>> 
>> Vivianna
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Becky Frankeberger via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Cindy, The thinking now is to wait until the growth plates are fully formed, so just about age two. But Vivianna might not have a choice as breeders are weird characters and may demand early spade as part of the contract.
>>> 
>>> Remember in the bad old days, schools were spade and neuter pups at three months. They learned this is not good practice, but should only be done in very extreme cases. I knew a puppy raiser who asked to have her little male labby neutered as he was making a mess in her home.
>>> 
>>> I put that article about the growth plates on this list maybe last year. It should be in the archives.
>>> 
>>> Becky and the snoozing prince Jake
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 6:23 AM
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>>> Cc: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] OK, i chose!
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>>> No, six months usually is when they can spay.
>>> 
>>> Did Vivianna mean 25 inches?
>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>> cindyray at gmail.com
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>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 8:09 AM
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>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] OK, i chose!
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>>> Congratulations, Vivianna.  What will you call her?  Are you sticking with the name NTG?
>>> I thought pups should be a year old before they're spayed?
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vivianna via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 2:17 PM
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>>> Cc: Vivianna
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] OK, i chose!
>>> 
>>> Well, i thought and thought.  I talked and talked.
>>> and, i decided to go with NTG.  no tail girl.
>>> I really liked the boy but, i am afraid he will just be to big.  his paws, at 5 months old, are twice the size of my 90 pound german shepherd and, the stance of those dogs is very wide.  i was afraid that he wouldn’t even be physically able to lay down on the back seat floor of an uber.  lol.
>>> she will be spayed next week and come home when she can be taken out of the cone.  poor girlie.
>>> the breeder thinks that she will be over 525 inches when she grows up and, that’s one big girl dog.
>>> so, now it’s time to buy puppy chew stuff and comfortable beds.  lol.
>>> 
>>> Take care;
>>> Vivianna
>>> 
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