[NAGDU] tools to clip nails

Thu Apr 13 21:44:49 UTC 2017

Cindy, I did not know that you played the organ! That is awesome!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I do think this is an issue well worth the discussion. I have been somewhere else where I have been hearing this kind of thing put forward a lot, and it becomes too easy to make excuses, or at least to be honest. I honestly would not care to try to cut the dogs' nails; I don'g cut my own now that Medicare pays for it because they just won't cut straight. I fear hurting my dogs, so I leave it to the groomer. Julie, I think it would be a long, long time before I could repair my washing machine, but I agree with you. It isn't a question of blindness. I hire a shopper; lots of sighted people do that, too. I think there are times when there is an underlying sense that we can't do something because we are blind, and then maybe we need to explore the possibility of doing it. I have a street that I fear crossing because I am afraid of its traffic, and by the ime I knew it was my turn, it might not be anymore, but I don't for a minute believe that blind people can't cross it.
> 
> Once someone told me they couldn't play the organ the way I did and they could see. They didn't play the organ at all. So we do have to be a little careful and try not to buy into some of that stuff.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:26 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Julie Johnson <julielj402 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] tools to clip nails
> 
> Yes, let's do explore the statement: *How "even sighted people cut too
> short*
> 
> To me it says that we shouldn't even try because if the sighted folks can't even do it, why should we even try?  That's the underlying message to me.
> 
> The thing is though, that nail clipping isn't a blindness issue. If your dog has black nails, most guide dogs do because of the breeds used, then vision isn't going to do you much good because you can't see the quick anyway.  Nail trimming has to do with confidence, skill and quality tools.  And a dog at least mostly agreeable.
> 
> If you can't or don't want to trim your dog's nails yourself, there's no issue with that.  There are vets and groomers available to sighted and blind people alike.  the thing is though, that saying it isn't possible because of blindness alone is very damaging.  To me it feels like we are lowering expectations of ourselves.  Of course not all of us choose to do everything possible, that's life.  I avail myself of all sorts of services...lawn mowing, washing machine repair, packaged foog...but I feel that if I wanted to mow my own lawn, fix my own washing machine or make every meal from scratch, those things are possible for me as a blind person.  I do not have the time or inclination to learn the skills necessary and that's okay.
> 
> Maybe what I'm trying to say is to not let blindness be the excuse.  I think we need to get brave and really real with ourselves.  I think it's okay to make the decision not to cut dog toenails because you are scared, not confident, can't afford the tools or don't have the time or desire to learn the needed skills.  Where I struggle is saying that blindness is the factor that prevents you from doing something that you would otherwise do.
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/13/2017 1:18 PM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU wrote:
>> Field rep? Unless you've met unusual field reps, generally speaking, the schools will more likely try to put the fear of god into you about nail trimming. You know, how you can really hurt your dog. How "even sighted people cut too short" (let's explore the subtext of a statement like that another time?).
>> 
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Becky Frankeberger via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great job dear Jenine. Also a vet tech should be happy to show you how and how to be safe. Your field rep from your school will also show you.
>>> 
>>> Safety first gang, ahem Jordan, warm smile.
>>> 
>>> Becky and sweet Jake
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 4:07 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jenine Stanley <jeninems at icloud.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] tools to clip nails
>>> 
>>> OK Becky, <smiling>
>>> 
>>> Stuff to have on hand:
>>> 
>>> Quick Stop powder. I can’t recall exactly what this is made of, alum I think, but it stops bleeding if you hit the quick. Just stick the nail into the container. Clean it out of course afterward, or pour some of it into a bowl when you start clipping.
>>> 
>>> Small scissors for trimming any fur around the paws, esepcially if you use a grinder on Goldewns or GSDs, any dog with fur growing over the nails. That fur gets caught and stops the grinder immediately.
>>> 
>>> If you have longer hair that droops down when you bend, tie it back. It hurts before that grinder stops with your hair in it.
>>> 
>>> Finally, treats. Do not forget special high value nail trimming treats.
>>> 
>>> Did I get them all? <sile>
>>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Becky Frankeberger via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You need more tools at close hand then just clippers. Come on gang
>>>> give the full story on what you need to grab quick if your dog moves.
>>>> 
>>>> Becky
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Becky Frankeberger
>>>> Butterfly Knitting
>>>> -  Ponchos
>>>> -  Afghans
>>>> -  Shawls
>>>> -  Custom Knitting
>>>> 360-426-8389
>>>> becky at butterflyKnitting.com
>>>> 
>>>> www.butterflyknitting.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jeninems%40icloud.c
>>>> om
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/b.butterfly%40comcast.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/buddy%40brannan.name
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NAGDU mailing list
>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/julielj402%40gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NAGDU mailing list
> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NAGDU mailing list
> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/vandyvanderbrink%40outlook.com