[NAGDU] Many Thanks

james boehm jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 28 16:01:35 UTC 2017


Dear federation family,
	 I would like to thank all of you for your prayers, thoughts, and many kind words. The love and unity was truly reflected in your actions, and I am forever grateful. Shep made it home last night. He is still in obvious pain  and groggy from the medication but is so happy to be home. i wish   strength to the many of you dealing with your dog’s own  ailments. We love them as they are a part of us and our family. My experience reminded me of the importance of our monitoring initiative starting in May. We must keep Uber and Lyft accountable! Again, I would like to express sincere gratitude for all of your calls, texts, emails, and posts.
Your federation brother,
James Alan Boehm
Peabody College of Vanderbilt University
Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.

Contact Information:
Phone: 901-483-1515
Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com
Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu
NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org
Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com

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>   2. Re: FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident (NAGDU President)
>   3. Re: FW: [Njagdu] Blind Nashville man denied ride by Lyft
>      driver despite need for emergency vet care (Dan Weiner)
>   4. Re: FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident (Cindy Ray)
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>   6. Re: FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident (Danielle Ledet)
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> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: [NAGDU] FW: [Njagdu] Blind Nashville man denied ride by Lyft driver despite need for emergency vet care
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 8:38:38 AM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> A news story about Jimmy, president of our Tennessee NAGDU.
> 
> Jimmy, I'm very sorry to read of Shep's illness, and it must have been
> doubly distressing to be denied a ride when you knew your dog was seriously
> ill.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Tracy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: NJAGDU [mailto:njagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ginger Kutsch
> via NJAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:01 AM
> To: New Jersey Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Ginger Kutsch
> Subject: [Njagdu] Blind Nashville man denied ride by Lyft driver despite
> need for emergency vet care
> 
> 
> 
> Blind Nashville man says he was denied ride from Lyft driver
> 
> By Larry Flowers
> 
> Published: April 26, 2017, 5:13 pm  |  Updated: April 26, 2017, 6:59 pm  
> 
> 
> 
> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) - A blind man said it has happened again. He was
> refused by another ride-share service driver because of his guide dog.
> 
> 
> 
> This time, a Lyft driver reportedly told the man he was afraid of dogs and
> took off. Last year, he experienced a similar incident with an Uber driver.
> 
> 
> 
> Normally when you see James Boehm, his guide dog Shep is leading the way,
> but Wednesday, he was on his own.
> 
> 
> 
> James Boehm (Photo: WKRN)
> 
> 
> 
> Like clockwork, Shep nudges Boehm's hand and wakes him every morning, but
> yesterday he just lay next to the bed. He wouldn't eat, even his favorite
> food, pumpkin.
> 
> 
> 
> "I noticed him kind of panting, kind of unusual," Boehm told News 2.
> 
> 
> 
> He said he called Lyft to get a ride to the veterinarian, but when the
> driver arrived and saw the dog, he refused to let them in.
> 
> 
> 
> "He said 'Sir, I can't take you. I'm afraid of dogs,'" Boehm said. "I said,
> 'I'm sorry, sir.' I said, 'But he's a guide dog. I'm blind. I'm disabled.
> He's my service dog; he's been very well trained. He's sick.'"
> 
> 
> 
> The driver still refused and drove off, he added.
> 
> 
> 
> Boehm requested another Lyft driver and Shep was off to the animal hospital
> without a minute to spare.
> 
> 
> 
> "They picked me up, it took about another 10 to 12 minutes, which was time
> that could have gotten Shep to the hospital, to the animal clinic, quicker,"
> he said. "It put his life in jeopardy because he was bleeding internally."
> 
> 
> 
> Shep has a golf-ball size tumor in his spleen, which was leaking. He was
> immediately rushed to surgery.
> 
> 
> 
> "Unfortunately this type of cancer is very aggressive," Boehm said.
> 
> 
> 
> It turns out Shep is so sick, his owner said he doesn't have long to live.
> 
> 
> 
> "They are giving him six to 12 months to live," he said.
> 
> 
> 
> Boehm filed a claim with Lyft and contacted Metro police. He said he had to
> educate police on the state law.
> 
> 
> 
> "I had to state to them what the Tennessee statute law is, 62-7-112, that
> it's a criminal offense, not a civil offense," he explained to News 2.
> 
> 
> 
> Last year, former Uber driver Rolanda Douglas refused to give Boehm a ride
> because of the guide dog. She ended up pleading guilty and was ordered to
> perform community service.
> 
> 
> 
> After that experience, Boehm switched to Lyft.
> 
> 
> 
> "Never had any issues with Lyft before, the drivers seem to be a lot
> friendlier and informed, but unfortunately at the worst possible time I had
> my first incident with Lyft," he said.
> 
> 
> 
> Boehm is hoping Shep gets better so he can retire him as a guide dog and let
> him live out his remaining life comfortable at home.
> 
> 
> 
> News 2 did some checking on the Lyft website. It states, "The law and Lyft's
> Service Animal Policy state that drivers may not deny service or otherwise
> discriminate against passengers with service animals."
> 
> 
> 
> News 2 reached out to the company, which stated, "Lyft takes any allegation
> of this nature incredibly seriously, and we have reached out to the
> passenger to refund their ride and offer our support. The law and Lyft's
> Service Animal Policy state that drivers may not deny service or otherwise
> discriminate against passengers with service animals. Failure to abide by
> that policy can result in deactivation from the Lyft platform. The driver in
> this case has been deactivated from the Lyft platform, pending further
> investigation. Any form of discrimination on our platform is simply
> unacceptable.
> 
> 
> 
> "Earlier this month, we launched a partnership with the National Federation
> of the Blind and are working with them to better educate about our service
> animal policy. As part of that effort, we have designated this month as
> Service Animal Month."
> 
> 
> 
> URL:
> http://wkrn.com/2017/04/26/blind-nashville-man-says-he-was-denied-ride-from-
> lyft-driver/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 8:56:22 AM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> 	Okay! I understand now. It is very sad to have a seemingly healthy dog become gravely ill so quickly. I am dealing with a similar issue with my boy, so I empathize with Jimmy. I sent him a message as such.
> 
> Thanks for your hard work keeping us all in line! (smile)
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
> National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> No, when I got it from the server I thought I accepted it but let the rest of the stuff defer. Apparently this can't be done because it did not go to the list. So I asked him to send it to me again; then I forwarded it to the list. I had read it, so I expressed my condolences to him re Shep. Hope this clarifies.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NAGDU President via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:48 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: NAGDU President <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> 	I'm not sure what you mean by it not going to the list. Did you reject the message or did he not send it to the list. It seems from the headers that it was sent directly to you. I also saw a messageto the list with a subject line and response to him, I think.
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> 
> 	
> 
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> I am sending this message as it did not go through to the list.
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: james boehm [mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:56 AM
> To: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Your Last Message
> 
> 
> 
> Dear friends,
> 
> Unfortunately, it seems access denials  occur at the worst times. Yesterday, it jeopardized my guide’s life. I am so glad that starting in May we will work together as a federation, in strategic locations in the US, to ensure Lyft and Uber follow through with the settlement requirements to train all of their drivers. If they don’t we will know about it! Please find below my letter to the regional Lyft official explaining my experience yesterday. Also, below my letter , you will find a link that outlines Lyft’s policy and provides a direct phone number for any service animal who experiences an access denial.I ask for your prayers and thoughts as Shep recovers. He is a strong boy! Unfortunately, the tumor he had in his spleen was leaking into his abdomen and stomach. The cancer is circulated by the blood. Thus, there is no way of knowing where else the tumor spread as the tumor was rupturing. But the doctor hopes that we will have 6-12 more months with him. Thank you for all the wishes, emails, and texts I already received. You are all dear to my heart during this difficult time. Please find the letter and link below, which may help some of you in the future.
> 
> Dear friend,
> 
> I hope you're doing well. I had a disastrous experience yesterday and wanted to let you know as well as get some information from you. Yesterday morning, my guide dog was not acting himself. He would not eat and he would just lay in pant. I knew something was wrong. So a few minutes before 8:45 AM I requested a lift driver. The driver arrived around 9:10 AM as I was walking with my guide dog towards the car which was parked across the street where we had to cross traffic the man yelled out the car that he would not transport us because he is afraid of dogs. I told him that Shep is my guide dog and as a service animal and I am a blind person with a disability. I told him that he is well trained and that he will condense himself in   the back floorboard of the car. I also told them kindly that it is a state and federal law and is a criminal offense and that my guide dog and I have to be transported but that I promise that he will be well mannered. The driver canceled the ride and just drove off and left me stranded. I had to then requested another Lyft driver. This was horrible because come to find out my guide dog had a ruptured spleen because of a tumor and was bleeding eternally and every minute counted. Fortunately , Shep my guide dog, is in stable condition, but the doctor said the delay could of jeopardized his survival. I immediately contacted the helpline and they took the information, sent me an email, but I have not heard from anyone else. I  replied to the email thread asking for assistance and for what information I should provide the Nashville police officer who filed the report without a response. Can you please contact me with the necessary information that I will need to provide Sargeant Snowden and the upcoming detective who will investigate the case. They will need to get further information on the driver so that charges can  be filed. I know you have been cooperative in the past, and I appreciate your attention to the matter. Feel free to contact me anytime today. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> 
> 
> 
> The following is the Lyft policy with the direct phone number to call. It may be a good number to store in your phone:
> 
> 
> 
> https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/214589657-Service-Animal-Policy#!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lyft Link:
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> 
> Contact Information:
> Phone: 901-483-1515
> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com> 
> 
> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m Possible'"
> Live the life you want!
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> 
> Contact Information:
> Phone: 901-483-1515
> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com> 
> 
> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m Possible'"
> Live the life you want! 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jimmy, I am so sorry to hear about Shep. Remember you are to report such incidents to the E-mail listed below:
> 
> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com> telder at trelegal.comabout the incident.
> 
> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com> telder at trelegal.com
> 
> Can y ou forward yhour message to me. I had accepted it and deferred all the spam but when I submitted the data it didn’t come through. If you could forward it to me, I can let it through.
> 
> 
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray, NAGDU List Moderator
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> From: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: [Njagdu] Blind Nashville man denied ride by Lyft driver despite need for emergency vet care
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 9:05:53 AM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> I'm so sorry this happened, James and I'm very sad about Shep. My Evan dog numerous dos has a tumor in his spleen but fortunately it got taken out in time so he had more years to live so I know how serious they can be.
> 
> 
> And as far as Lift, Uber, cabs or anything,until the law has teeth and it is indeed treated as a criminal offesse and there is punishment that is swift and unpleasant this stuff will keep going on.
> 
> Warmest,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/27/2017 9:38 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>> A news story about Jimmy, president of our Tennessee NAGDU.
>> 
>> Jimmy, I'm very sorry to read of Shep's illness, and it must have been
>> doubly distressing to be denied a ride when you knew your dog was seriously
>> ill.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Tracy
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> From: NJAGDU [mailto:njagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ginger Kutsch
>> via NJAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:01 AM
>> To: New Jersey Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch
>> Subject: [Njagdu] Blind Nashville man denied ride by Lyft driver despite
>> need for emergency vet care
>> 
>>  
>> Blind Nashville man says he was denied ride from Lyft driver
>> 
>> By Larry Flowers
>> 
>> Published: April 26, 2017, 5:13 pm  |  Updated: April 26, 2017, 6:59 pm
>> 
>>  
>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) - A blind man said it has happened again. He was
>> refused by another ride-share service driver because of his guide dog.
>> 
>>  
>> This time, a Lyft driver reportedly told the man he was afraid of dogs and
>> took off. Last year, he experienced a similar incident with an Uber driver.
>> 
>>  
>> Normally when you see James Boehm, his guide dog Shep is leading the way,
>> but Wednesday, he was on his own.
>> 
>>  
>> James Boehm (Photo: WKRN)
>> 
>>  
>> Like clockwork, Shep nudges Boehm's hand and wakes him every morning, but
>> yesterday he just lay next to the bed. He wouldn't eat, even his favorite
>> food, pumpkin.
>> 
>>  
>> "I noticed him kind of panting, kind of unusual," Boehm told News 2.
>> 
>>  
>> He said he called Lyft to get a ride to the veterinarian, but when the
>> driver arrived and saw the dog, he refused to let them in.
>> 
>>  
>> "He said 'Sir, I can't take you. I'm afraid of dogs,'" Boehm said. "I said,
>> 'I'm sorry, sir.' I said, 'But he's a guide dog. I'm blind. I'm disabled.
>> He's my service dog; he's been very well trained. He's sick.'"
>> 
>>  
>> The driver still refused and drove off, he added.
>> 
>>  
>> Boehm requested another Lyft driver and Shep was off to the animal hospital
>> without a minute to spare.
>> 
>>  
>> "They picked me up, it took about another 10 to 12 minutes, which was time
>> that could have gotten Shep to the hospital, to the animal clinic, quicker,"
>> he said. "It put his life in jeopardy because he was bleeding internally."
>> 
>>  
>> Shep has a golf-ball size tumor in his spleen, which was leaking. He was
>> immediately rushed to surgery.
>> 
>>  
>> "Unfortunately this type of cancer is very aggressive," Boehm said.
>> 
>>  
>> It turns out Shep is so sick, his owner said he doesn't have long to live.
>> 
>>  
>> "They are giving him six to 12 months to live," he said.
>> 
>>  
>> Boehm filed a claim with Lyft and contacted Metro police. He said he had to
>> educate police on the state law.
>> 
>>  
>> "I had to state to them what the Tennessee statute law is, 62-7-112, that
>> it's a criminal offense, not a civil offense," he explained to News 2.
>> 
>>  
>> Last year, former Uber driver Rolanda Douglas refused to give Boehm a ride
>> because of the guide dog. She ended up pleading guilty and was ordered to
>> perform community service.
>> 
>>  
>> After that experience, Boehm switched to Lyft.
>> 
>>  
>> "Never had any issues with Lyft before, the drivers seem to be a lot
>> friendlier and informed, but unfortunately at the worst possible time I had
>> my first incident with Lyft," he said.
>> 
>>  
>> Boehm is hoping Shep gets better so he can retire him as a guide dog and let
>> him live out his remaining life comfortable at home.
>> 
>>  
>> News 2 did some checking on the Lyft website. It states, "The law and Lyft's
>> Service Animal Policy state that drivers may not deny service or otherwise
>> discriminate against passengers with service animals."
>> 
>>  
>> News 2 reached out to the company, which stated, "Lyft takes any allegation
>> of this nature incredibly seriously, and we have reached out to the
>> passenger to refund their ride and offer our support. The law and Lyft's
>> Service Animal Policy state that drivers may not deny service or otherwise
>> discriminate against passengers with service animals. Failure to abide by
>> that policy can result in deactivation from the Lyft platform. The driver in
>> this case has been deactivated from the Lyft platform, pending further
>> investigation. Any form of discrimination on our platform is simply
>> unacceptable.
>> 
>>  
>> "Earlier this month, we launched a partnership with the National Federation
>> of the Blind and are working with them to better educate about our service
>> animal policy. As part of that effort, we have designated this month as
>> Service Animal Month."
>> 
>>  
>> URL:
>> http://wkrn.com/2017/04/26/blind-nashville-man-says-he-was-denied-ride-from-
>> lyft-driver/
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 9:07:14 AM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> I can't imagine going through that kind of stress when the dog is so sick, and of course it was fast and likely terminal. That's a lot and then be refused by a driver.
> 
> Yeah, I love keeping people in line, and I appreciate your words.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NAGDU President via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:56 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: NAGDU President <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> 	Okay! I understand now. It is very sad to have a seemingly healthy dog become gravely ill so quickly. I am dealing with a similar issue with my boy, so I empathize with Jimmy. I sent him a message as such.
> 
> Thanks for your hard work keeping us all in line! (smile)
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> No, when I got it from the server I thought I accepted it but let the rest of the stuff defer. Apparently this can't be done because it did not go to the list. So I asked him to send it to me again; then I forwarded it to the list. I had read it, so I expressed my condolences to him re Shep. Hope this clarifies.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NAGDU President via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:48 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: NAGDU President <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> 	I'm not sure what you mean by it not going to the list. Did you reject the message or did he not send it to the list. It seems from the headers that it was sent directly to you. I also saw a messageto the list with a subject line and response to him, I think.
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> 
> 	
> 
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> I am sending this message as it did not go through to the list.
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: james boehm [mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:56 AM
> To: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Your Last Message
> 
> 
> 
> Dear friends,
> 
> Unfortunately, it seems access denials  occur at the worst times. Yesterday, it jeopardized my guide’s life. I am so glad that starting in May we will work together as a federation, in strategic locations in the US, to ensure Lyft and Uber follow through with the settlement requirements to train all of their drivers. If they don’t we will know about it! Please find below my letter to the regional Lyft official explaining my experience yesterday. Also, below my letter , you will find a link that outlines Lyft’s policy and provides a direct phone number for any service animal who experiences an access denial.I ask for your prayers and thoughts as Shep recovers. He is a strong boy! Unfortunately, the tumor he had in his spleen was leaking into his abdomen and stomach. The cancer is circulated by the blood. Thus, there is no way of knowing where else the tumor spread as the tumor was rupturing. But the doctor hopes that we will have 6-12 more months with him. Thank you for all the wishes, emails, and texts I already received. You are all dear to my heart during this difficult time. Please find the letter and link below, which may help some of you in the future.
> 
> Dear friend,
> 
> I hope you're doing well. I had a disastrous experience yesterday and wanted to let you know as well as get some information from you. Yesterday morning, my guide dog was not acting himself. He would not eat and he would just lay in pant. I knew something was wrong. So a few minutes before 8:45 AM I requested a lift driver. The driver arrived around 9:10 AM as I was walking with my guide dog towards the car which was parked across the street where we had to cross traffic the man yelled out the car that he would not transport us because he is afraid of dogs. I told him that Shep is my guide dog and as a service animal and I am a blind person with a disability. I told him that he is well trained and that he will condense himself in   the back floorboard of the car. I also told them kindly that it is a state and federal law and is a criminal offense and that my guide dog and I have to be transported but that I promise that he will be well mannered. The driver canceled the ride and just drove off and left me stranded. I had to then requested another Lyft driver. This was horrible because come to find out my guide dog had a ruptured spleen because of a tumor and was bleeding eternally and every minute counted. Fortunately , Shep my guide dog, is in stable condition, but the doctor said the delay could of jeopardized his survival. I immediately contacted the helpline and they took the information, sent me an email, but I have not heard from anyone else. I  replied to the email thread asking for assistance and for what information I should provide the Nashville police officer who filed the report without a response. Can you please contact me with the necessary information that I will need to provide Sargeant Snowden and the upcoming detective who will investigate the case. They will need to get further information on the driver so that charges can  be filed. I know you have been cooperative in the past, and I appreciate your attention to the matter. Feel free to contact me anytime today. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> 
> 
> 
> The following is the Lyft policy with the direct phone number to call. It may be a good number to store in your phone:
> 
> 
> 
> https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/214589657-Service-Animal-Policy#!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lyft Link:
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> 
> Contact Information:
> Phone: 901-483-1515
> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com> 
> 
> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m Possible'"
> Live the life you want!
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> 
> Contact Information:
> Phone: 901-483-1515
> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com> 
> 
> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m Possible'"
> Live the life you want! 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jimmy, I am so sorry to hear about Shep. Remember you are to report such incidents to the E-mail listed below:
> 
> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com> telder at trelegal.comabout the incident.
> 
> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com> telder at trelegal.com
> 
> Can y ou forward yhour message to me. I had accepted it and deferred all the spam but when I submitted the data it didn’t come through. If you could forward it to me, I can let it through.
> 
> 
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray, NAGDU List Moderator
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 9:12:33 AM CDT
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> What is wrong with Sarge? How old is he? Seems he wouldn't be all that old, but time flies when you're having fun, and even when you aren't.
> Cindy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NAGDU President via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:56 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: NAGDU President <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> 	Okay! I understand now. It is very sad to have a seemingly healthy dog become gravely ill so quickly. I am dealing with a similar issue with my boy, so I empathize with Jimmy. I sent him a message as such.
> 
> Thanks for your hard work keeping us all in line! (smile)
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> No, when I got it from the server I thought I accepted it but let the rest of the stuff defer. Apparently this can't be done because it did not go to the list. So I asked him to send it to me again; then I forwarded it to the list. I had read it, so I expressed my condolences to him re Shep. Hope this clarifies.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NAGDU President via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:48 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: NAGDU President <blind411 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> 	I'm not sure what you mean by it not going to the list. Did you reject the message or did he not send it to the list. It seems from the headers that it was sent directly to you. I also saw a messageto the list with a subject line and response to him, I think.
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> 
> 	
> 
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
> I am sending this message as it did not go through to the list.
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: james boehm [mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:56 AM
> To: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Your Last Message
> 
> 
> 
> Dear friends,
> 
> Unfortunately, it seems access denials  occur at the worst times. Yesterday, it jeopardized my guide’s life. I am so glad that starting in May we will work together as a federation, in strategic locations in the US, to ensure Lyft and Uber follow through with the settlement requirements to train all of their drivers. If they don’t we will know about it! Please find below my letter to the regional Lyft official explaining my experience yesterday. Also, below my letter , you will find a link that outlines Lyft’s policy and provides a direct phone number for any service animal who experiences an access denial.I ask for your prayers and thoughts as Shep recovers. He is a strong boy! Unfortunately, the tumor he had in his spleen was leaking into his abdomen and stomach. The cancer is circulated by the blood. Thus, there is no way of knowing where else the tumor spread as the tumor was rupturing. But the doctor hopes that we will have 6-12 more months with him. Thank you for all the wishes, emails, and texts I already received. You are all dear to my heart during this difficult time. Please find the letter and link below, which may help some of you in the future.
> 
> Dear friend,
> 
> I hope you're doing well. I had a disastrous experience yesterday and wanted to let you know as well as get some information from you. Yesterday morning, my guide dog was not acting himself. He would not eat and he would just lay in pant. I knew something was wrong. So a few minutes before 8:45 AM I requested a lift driver. The driver arrived around 9:10 AM as I was walking with my guide dog towards the car which was parked across the street where we had to cross traffic the man yelled out the car that he would not transport us because he is afraid of dogs. I told him that Shep is my guide dog and as a service animal and I am a blind person with a disability. I told him that he is well trained and that he will condense himself in   the back floorboard of the car. I also told them kindly that it is a state and federal law and is a criminal offense and that my guide dog and I have to be transported but that I promise that he will be well mannered. The driver canceled the ride and just drove off and left me stranded. I had to then requested another Lyft driver. This was horrible because come to find out my guide dog had a ruptured spleen because of a tumor and was bleeding eternally and every minute counted. Fortunately , Shep my guide dog, is in stable condition, but the doctor said the delay could of jeopardized his survival. I immediately contacted the helpline and they took the information, sent me an email, but I have not heard from anyone else. I  replied to the email thread asking for assistance and for what information I should provide the Nashville police officer who filed the report without a response. Can you please contact me with the necessary information that I will need to provide Sargeant Snowden and the upcoming detective who will investigate the case. They will need to get further information on the driver so that charges can  be filed. I know you have been cooperative in the past, and I appreciate your attention to the matter. Feel free to contact me anytime today. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> 
> 
> 
> The following is the Lyft policy with the direct phone number to call. It may be a good number to store in your phone:
> 
> 
> 
> https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/214589657-Service-Animal-Policy#!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lyft Link:
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> 
> Contact Information:
> Phone: 901-483-1515
> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com> 
> 
> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m Possible'"
> Live the life you want!
> 
> James Alan Boehm
> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> 
> Contact Information:
> Phone: 901-483-1515
> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com> 
> 
> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m Possible'"
> Live the life you want! 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jimmy, I am so sorry to hear about Shep. Remember you are to report such incidents to the E-mail listed below:
> 
> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com> telder at trelegal.comabout the incident.
> 
> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com> telder at trelegal.com
> 
> Can y ou forward yhour message to me. I had accepted it and deferred all the spam but when I submitted the data it didn’t come through. If you could forward it to me, I can let it through.
> 
> 
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray, NAGDU List Moderator
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NAGDU mailing list
> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
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> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NAGDU:
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 11:02:00 AM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> James I'm so glad you are following thru with this and that you shared
> this unfortunate event with us. My prayer go out to you and your dog.
> Incidentally, I had a shepherd boy walk up to me yesterday
> unexpectedly. He was so quiet I didn't even realize he had come to
> visit me. He didn't stay long though before he was called back and I
> didn't get to touch those pointy ears! Take care of Shep and keep us
> updated on the LYFT issue and his health. God bless!
> 
> On 4/27/17, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> What is wrong with Sarge? How old is he? Seems he wouldn't be all that old,
>> but time flies when you're having fun, and even when you aren't.
>> Cindy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NAGDU President
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:56 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: NAGDU President <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
>> 
>> Cindy,
>> 
>> 	Okay! I understand now. It is very sad to have a seemingly healthy dog
>> become gravely ill so quickly. I am dealing with a similar issue with my
>> boy, so I empathize with Jimmy. I sent him a message as such.
>> 
>> Thanks for your hard work keeping us all in line! (smile)
>> 
>> Marion
>> 
>> 
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of
>> the Blind
>> (813) 626-2789
>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>> 
>> 
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
>> expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people
>> and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
>> you back.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
>> 
>> No, when I got it from the server I thought I accepted it but let the rest
>> of the stuff defer. Apparently this can't be done because it did not go to
>> the list. So I asked him to send it to me again; then I forwarded it to the
>> list. I had read it, so I expressed my condolences to him re Shep. Hope this
>> clarifies.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NAGDU President
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:48 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: NAGDU President <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
>> 
>> Cindy,
>> 
>> 	I'm not sure what you mean by it not going to the list. Did you reject the
>> message or did he not send it to the list. It seems from the headers that it
>> was sent directly to you. I also saw a messageto the list with a subject
>> line and response to him, I think.
>> 
>> Marion
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 	
>> 
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of
>> the Blind
>> (813) 626-2789
>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>> 
>> 
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
>> expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people
>> and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
>> you back.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:04 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>> Subject: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
>> 
>> I am sending this message as it did not go through to the list.
>> 
>> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: james boehm [mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:56 AM
>> To: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Your Last Message
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear friends,
>> 
>> Unfortunately, it seems access denials  occur at the worst times. Yesterday,
>> it jeopardized my guide’s life. I am so glad that starting in May we will
>> work together as a federation, in strategic locations in the US, to ensure
>> Lyft and Uber follow through with the settlement requirements to train all
>> of their drivers. If they don’t we will know about it! Please find below my
>> letter to the regional Lyft official explaining my experience yesterday.
>> Also, below my letter , you will find a link that outlines Lyft’s policy and
>> provides a direct phone number for any service animal who experiences an
>> access denial.I ask for your prayers and thoughts as Shep recovers. He is a
>> strong boy! Unfortunately, the tumor he had in his spleen was leaking into
>> his abdomen and stomach. The cancer is circulated by the blood. Thus, there
>> is no way of knowing where else the tumor spread as the tumor was rupturing.
>> But the doctor hopes that we will have 6-12 more months with him. Thank you
>> for all the wishes, emails, and texts I already received. You are all dear
>> to my heart during this difficult time. Please find the letter and link
>> below, which may help some of you in the future.
>> 
>> Dear friend,
>> 
>> I hope you're doing well. I had a disastrous experience yesterday and
>> wanted to let you know as well as get some information from you. Yesterday
>> morning, my guide dog was not acting himself. He would not eat and he would
>> just lay in pant. I knew something was wrong. So a few minutes before 8:45
>> AM I requested a lift driver. The driver arrived around 9:10 AM as I was
>> walking with my guide dog towards the car which was parked across the street
>> where we had to cross traffic the man yelled out the car that he would not
>> transport us because he is afraid of dogs. I told him that Shep is my guide
>> dog and as a service animal and I am a blind person with a disability. I
>> told him that he is well trained and that he will condense himself in   the
>> back floorboard of the car. I also told them kindly that it is a state and
>> federal law and is a criminal offense and that my guide dog and I have to be
>> transported but that I promise that he will be well mannered. The driver
>> canceled the ride and just drove off and left me stranded. I had to then
>> requested another Lyft driver. This was horrible because come to find out my
>> guide dog had a ruptured spleen because of a tumor and was bleeding
>> eternally and every minute counted. Fortunately , Shep my guide dog, is in
>> stable condition, but the doctor said the delay could of jeopardized his
>> survival. I immediately contacted the helpline and they took the
>> information, sent me an email, but I have not heard from anyone else. I
>> replied to the email thread asking for assistance and for what information I
>> should provide the Nashville police officer who filed the report without a
>> response. Can you please contact me with the necessary information that I
>> will need to provide Sargeant Snowden and the upcoming detective who will
>> investigate the case. They will need to get further information on the
>> driver so that charges can  be filed. I know you have been cooperative in
>> the past, and I appreciate your attention to the matter. Feel free to
>> contact me anytime today.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> James Alan Boehm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The following is the Lyft policy with the direct phone number to call. It
>> may be a good number to store in your phone:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/214589657-Service-Animal-Policy#!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lyft Link:
>> 
>> James Alan Boehm
>> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental
>> Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
>> 
>> Contact Information:
>> Phone: 901-483-1515
>> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
>> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu
>> <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
>> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane:
>> kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com>
>> 
>> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m
>> Possible'"
>> Live the life you want!
>> 
>> James Alan Boehm
>> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental
>> Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
>> 
>> Contact Information:
>> Phone: 901-483-1515
>> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
>> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu
>> <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
>> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane:
>> kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com>
>> 
>> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m
>> Possible'"
>> Live the life you want!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>> <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jimmy, I am so sorry to hear about Shep. Remember you are to report such
>> incidents to the E-mail listed below:
>> 
>> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com>
>> telder at trelegal.comabout the incident.
>> 
>> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com>
>> telder at trelegal.com
>> 
>> Can y ou forward yhour message to me. I had accepted it and deferred all the
>> spam but when I submitted the data it didn’t come through. If you could
>> forward it to me, I can let it through.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cindy Lou Ray, NAGDU List Moderator
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
> tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: sheila leigland <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] How to deal with a sniffer
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 11:32:11 AM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> I'm not sure that it is reasonable to expect no sniffing because they are dogs and I correct it I feel it is over the top.
> 
> On 4/26/2017 8:01 PM, lkeeler--- via NAGDU wrote:
>> Yah, They have to read the peemail and visit the poobox! If I'm out for
>> a walk and not in a big hurry, I let her do it a little bit. If we're in
>> a hurry or around a lot of people, I usually correct her or divert her
>> attention. They haven't yet developed an off switch for the nose and if
>> they do, won't be a dog anymore!
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Gearry via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 2:57 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Bryan Gearry
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] How to deal with a sniffer
>> 
>> I think that is commonly called "reading the news" :-)
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/26/2017 10:54 AM, Jean Menzies via NAGDU wrote:
>>> If he's just air scenting, I vote that it's okay. He's a dog, and for
>>> me, air scenting isn't a problem. JMO
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Tori Clark via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 7:33 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Tori Clark
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] How to deal with a sniffer
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Do any of you guys have any advice on controlling a dog that loves to
>>> sniff the air?
>>> 
>>> Tori.
>>> 
>>> Black Hawk Chapter President National Federation of the Blind of
>>> Illinois.
>>> Younique presenter
>>> 309-373-2830
>>> 
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>> 
> 
> -- 
> SHEILA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] How to deal with a sniffer
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 2:39:16 PM CDT
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> True! But, a gentle correction usually gets them on task. Not saying I treat her rough. Often, when not in a big hurry, I'll let her fill the nose before moving on. Mostly, the corrections are used for the skirt, trouser and food that isn't for them issues!
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: sheila leigland via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: sheila leigland
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] How to deal with a sniffer
> 
> I'm not sure that it is reasonable to expect no sniffing because they
> are dogs and I correct it I feel it is over the top.
> 
> On 4/26/2017 8:01 PM, lkeeler--- via NAGDU wrote:
>> Yah, They have to read the peemail and visit the poobox! If I'm out for
>> a walk and not in a big hurry, I let her do it a little bit. If we're in
>> a hurry or around a lot of people, I usually correct her or divert her
>> attention. They haven't yet developed an off switch for the nose and if
>> they do, won't be a dog anymore!
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Gearry via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 2:57 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Bryan Gearry
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] How to deal with a sniffer
>> 
>> I think that is commonly called "reading the news" :-)
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/26/2017 10:54 AM, Jean Menzies via NAGDU wrote:
>>> If he's just air scenting, I vote that it's okay. He's a dog, and for
>>> me, air scenting isn't a problem. JMO
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Tori Clark via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 7:33 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Tori Clark
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] How to deal with a sniffer
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Do any of you guys have any advice on controlling a dog that loves to
>>> sniff the air?
>>> 
>>> Tori.
>>> 
>>> Black Hawk Chapter President National Federation of the Blind of
>>> Illinois.
>>> Younique presenter
>>> 309-373-2830
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> From: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> Date: April 27, 2017 at 8:25:28 PM CDT
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> 
> 
> I am sorry your dog is sick, I hope if you need a new one you can get it rite away.
> Original message:
>> Cindy,
> 
>>        Okay! I understand now. It is very sad to have a seemingly healthy dog become gravely ill so quickly. I am dealing with a similar issue with my boy, so I empathize with Jimmy. I sent him a message as such.
> 
>> Thanks for your hard work keeping us all in line! (smile)
> 
>> Marion
> 
> 
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> (813) 626-2789
>> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
>> No, when I got it from the server I thought I accepted it but let the rest of the stuff defer. Apparently this can't be done because it did not go to the list. So I asked him to send it to me again; then I forwarded it to the list. I had read it, so I expressed my condolences to him re Shep. Hope this clarifies.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NAGDU President via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:48 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: NAGDU President <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
>> Cindy,
> 
>>        I'm not sure what you mean by it not going to the list. Did you reject the message or did he not send it to the list. It seems from the headers that it was sent directly to you. I also saw a messageto the list with a subject line and response to him, I think.
> 
>> Marion
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of the Blind
>> (813) 626-2789
>> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:04 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>> Subject: [NAGDU] FW: An Unfortunate Lift Incident
> 
>> I am sending this message as it did not go through to the list.
> 
>> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From: james boehm [mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:56 AM
>> To: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Your Last Message
> 
> 
> 
>> Dear friends,
> 
>> Unfortunately, it seems access denials  occur at the worst times. Yesterday, it jeopardized my guide’s life. I am so glad that starting in May we will work together as a federation, in strategic locations in the US, to ensure Lyft and Uber follow through with the settlement requirements to train all of their drivers. If they don’t we will know about it! Please find below my letter to the regional Lyft official explaining my experience yesterday. Also, below my letter , you will find a link that outlines Lyft’s policy and provides a direct phone number for any service animal who experiences an access denial.I ask for your prayers and thoughts as Shep recovers. He is a strong boy! Unfortunately, the tumor he had in his spleen was leaking into his abdomen and stomach. The cancer is circulated by the blood. Thus, there is no way of knowing where else the tumor spread as the tumor was rupturing. But the doctor hopes that we will have 6-12 more months with him. Thank you for all the wishes, emails, and texts I already received. You are all dear to my heart during this difficult time. Please find the letter and link below, which may help some of you in the future.
> 
>> Dear friend,
> 
>> I hope you're doing well. I had a disastrous experience yesterday and wanted to let you know as well as get some information from you. Yesterday morning, my guide dog was not acting himself. He would not eat and he would just lay in pant. I knew something was wrong. So a few minutes before 8:45 AM I requested a lift driver. The driver arrived around 9:10 AM as I was walking with my guide dog towards the car which was parked across the street where we had to cross traffic the man yelled out the car that he would not transport us because he is afraid of dogs. I told him that Shep is my guide dog and as a service animal and I am a blind person with a disability. I told him that he is well trained and that he will condense himself in   the back floorboard of the car. I also told them kindly that it is a state and federal law and is a criminal offense and that my guide dog and I have to be transported but that I promise that he will be well mannered. The driver canceled the ride and just drove off and left me stranded. I had to then requested another Lyft driver. This was horrible because come to find out my guide dog had a ruptured spleen because of a tumor and was bleeding eternally and every minute counted. Fortunately , Shep my guide dog, is in stable condition, but the doctor said the delay could of jeopardized his survival. I immediately contacted the helpline and they took the information, sent me an email, but I have not heard from anyone else. I  replied to the email thread asking for assistance and for what information I should provide the Nashville police officer who filed the report without a response. Can you please contact me with the necessary information that I will need to provide Sargeant Snowden and the upcoming detective who will investigate the case. They will need to get further information on the driver so that charges can  be filed. I know you have been cooperative in the past, and I appreciate your attention to the matter. Feel free to contact me anytime today.
> 
>> Best,
> 
>> James Alan Boehm
> 
> 
> 
>> The following is the Lyft policy with the direct phone number to call. It may be a good number to store in your phone:
> 
> 
> 
>> https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/214589657-Service-Animal-Policy#!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Lyft Link:
> 
>> James Alan Boehm
>> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> 
>> Contact Information:
>> Phone: 901-483-1515
>> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
>> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
>> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com>
> 
>> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m Possible'"
>> Live the life you want!
> 
>> James Alan Boehm
>> Peabody College of Vanderbilt University Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> 
>> Contact Information:
>> Phone: 901-483-1515
>> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com <mailto:jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
>> Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu <mailto:James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu>
>> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org <mailto:secretary at nfb-tn.org> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com <mailto:kustomcane at gmail.com>
> 
>> -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ‘I’m Possible'"
>> Live the life you want!
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Jimmy, I am so sorry to hear about Shep. Remember you are to report such incidents to the E-mail listed below:
> 
>> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com> telder at trelegal.comabout the incident.
> 
>> Please be sure to email Tim Elder at  <mailto:telder at trelegal.com> telder at trelegal.com
> 
>> Can y ou forward yhour message to me. I had accepted it and deferred all the spam but when I submitted the data it didn’t come through. If you could forward it to me, I can let it through.
> 
> 
> 
>> Cindy Lou Ray, NAGDU List Moderator
> 
> 
> 
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