[NAGDU] Back chaining

Sun Aug 20 18:40:55 UTC 2017

The term is used widely amongst clicker trainers but don't know if it's something the programs teach as a part of their clicker training classes. I find this method to be very helpful like Hailey said she uses it for teaching a specific location like a hotel room. I'm a teacher who goes from school to school so have used this method with Soleil to teach the location of classes. 

 Rox and the kitchen Bitches: 
Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
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> On Aug 20, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Oh, OK. I don't know if I have ever heard it called that, but it makes
> sense.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
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> Back chaining is a way to teach behavior.   You teach the last behavior in a
> chain first and work back from there.  So if I'm teaching a dog to retrieve,
> the first behavior I will teach is the "give," then the "hold," and then the
> "get."
> If I'm teaching a dog to remember a place, I will start at the place I want
> the dog to remember and work out from that place, increasing my distance in
> small amounts once the dog demonstrates understanding at the current
> distance.  
> 
> Rox and the kitchen Bitches: 
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
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>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> He actually said back chaining. I wonder if he meant back patterning, 
>> but I'm not really sure.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
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>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy 
>> VanderBrink via NAGDU
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>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink <vandyvanderbrink at outlook.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] tip?
>> 
>> I'm curious, what is back chairing?
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated 
>> using voice dictation Nancy Irwin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Haylie Gallacher via NAGDU
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you were taught back chaining during training, this would be an
>> excellent time to use it.  That saved me a big headache of finding my 
>> room at the NFB convention.
>>> Haylie
>>> 
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>>>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Jody ianuzzi via NAGDU 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Another way I would mark my hotel room was to walk around in circles 
>>>> in front of the door with my dog so that we left our sent in a large 
>>>> area in front of the door
>>>> 
>>>> JODY
>>>> 
>>>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
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>>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO 
>>>> BARRIERS Erik Weihenmayer
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Gary Steeves via NAGDU 
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hi Janelle
>>>>> 
>>>>> one tip I'd share with you is once you have someone take you to 
>>>>> your room, make a big deal of telling your dog that this the room 
>>>>> and if you treat them I'd treat when you leave the room  quickly 
>>>>> get the dog to show you. The door and call it your room.  with my 
>>>>> last dog I could do this and would impressed people  who wanted to 
>>>>> help us find our room by getting off the elevator and asking my dog 
>>>>> to find our room, number 217.  The people would think he was 
>>>>> finding the room number because they didn't know I had highlighted the
> room already.
>>>>> it's fun to play with sighted people sometimes.  our dogs are 
>>>>> amazing but people often think they just do everything for us. :) 
>>>>> I'm sure others on the. list have. their own tricks of finding 
>>>>> their rooms  in hotels.  I think I recall another member here used 
>>>>> to tie a bag to the door handle with a dog treat in it. Fido will 
>>>>> find that for sure. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> good luck with your big adventure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On August 18, 2017 10:47:57 AM PDT, Janell via NAGDU 
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't need assistance with the relieving part, just making sure 
>>>>>> I get back to the right floor/room.  The hotel we are staying at 
>>>>>> is the biggest one in San Diego, and this will be my first time 
>>>>>> traveling with my pup.  I am sure Sully can learn the rout after a 
>>>>>> time or maybe two, but I am just trying to cover all my bases.  I 
>>>>>> am a small town girl so going to such a huge city and staying at 
>>>>>> such a big hotel is going to be a whole new experience for both of 
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Janell
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>>>>>> Vivianna via NAGDU
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>>>>>> Cc: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] tip?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why do you need assistance?  Just curious.
>>>>>> when i am at a hotel, i just ask them where is the trash can 
>>>>>> outside, then, i go outside and find a place to relieve my dog, 
>>>>>> pick it up, take it to the trash.
>>>>>> I exit the hotel, stop ad listen for a couple seconds to get my 
>>>>>> bearings, then just turn right or left and head off to find a 
>>>>>> suitable spot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Vivianna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One more question for everyone: The first few times I am having 
>>>>>>> to relieve Sully at the hotel I will need to call the front desk 
>>>>>>> for assistance.  Just wondering how much do I tip them? What is 
>>>>>>> appropriate?  Thanks-Janell
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