[NAGDU] Reserved dog on routes

[Andy B.]

Hi,

He takes more time than needed to figure out what he needs to do on the up
curb. I give him 3 chances to get it correct before scolding him. Most times
he gets it before then, but the ratio is about 30% scold and 70% success
without scolding. The high ratio on up curb scolding is partly his age and
partly a new route that he hasn't completely mastered yet. The grass problem
is a good thing. However, I don't need him to stop every 3 steps to check
the grass line, which he does during some stretches of the route. Most of
his hesitation is on the return route though. He is praise based, so treats
on up curbs aren't an issue.



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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Reserved dog on routes

hay there
this looks like an interesting question, hence my reply to this question,
when you say that your guide takes their time on the up curb what type of
time frame are you talking about? a couple of seconds extra?? that has you
concerned, on regards to grass on the side walk and overhead bushes etc, I
would praise my guide for not brushing me against them she would be aware
that they are there, and would walk me around them, as she was trained to
do.  So I am not concerned in regards to that, finally I am just curious is
your dog food rewarded trained???? or not?? just a thought, if your guide
was feed rewarded trained and you have no rewards in your pocket, hence
maybe could be the problem at the up curb.  My current dog and previous dogs
were not food rewarded and all worked well.
gabriel
> On 28 Aug 2017, at 01:00, Andy B. via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> Alec does pretty well on this 1.6 mile walk to Walgreens. He is right 
> on target going there. However, he is reserved and hesitant with 
> certain parts of the route coming home. For example, he tends to take 
> his time at up curbs and dilly-dally in the street. After 
> experimenting around, it appears that he is overly concerned about me 
> tripping over the up curb while he walks up the up-ramp. I have 
> suggested left and straight without much success. I do have to give 
> him credit because most of the street corners are small and narrow. Is 
> there any way to improve his confidence on these type of street 
> crossings? It also seems that he is overly concerned with me stepping 
> in the grass and walking into extended bushes. Is there a way to let 
> him know that perfection is not the point? He seems to be particular. 
> If any part of my body touches something, falls outside the sidewalk, 
> and can't fit on the up curb, he stops and takes his time figuring out 
> his problem. The only thing I don't like is the extended amount of time it
takes him to figure it out before getting a forward correction.
> 
> 
> 
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