[NAGDU] Go to the roof in case of needing rescue

Tue Aug 29 14:53:09 UTC 2017

Thanks for this description Rox'e. I wondered the very same thing.

On 8/27/17, Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Cindy, I totally agree with you. That is not something I ever wish to
> experience again and if we have knowledge we will evaluate. I was talking to
> my husband about it because he works with emergency management and he was
> saying that the best way to get to the roof would probably be to keep an ax
> handy and quite literally cut through the plywood that is on top of the
> house. I know that sounds extreme but it's either that trying to bodily haul
> your dog to the roof. God I hope nobody has to go through that!
>
> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using
> voice dictation
> Nancy Irwin
>
>
>> On Aug 27, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The thing is that in the case of this storm people do get warnings. I
>> certainly know that there would be instances where you could not get out.
>> Reading what Rox said about how to get the dog on the roof made my blood
>> run cold. I just can't imagine being in that situation, and I can't quite
>> imagine going through what you went through, Nancy, though the time in
>> Lawrence when the water was up to my landing from the basement and I
>> walked out the back door and the current of the water pushed me toward the
>> garage where there was plenty more water. Water and storms are very
>> powerful, and we need surely to treat them with care and respect, leave
>> when we can, and a back up plan is good. Most of us don't think that much
>> in advance though until such time as we are in the situation. I just hope
>> all are safe. My daughter is in the Houston area, but where she is is not
>> necessarily a flooding area.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy
>> VanderBrink via NAGDU
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>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink <vandyvanderbrink at outlook.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Go to the roof in case of needing rescue
>>
>> Someone said something about giving out if they know something that is
>> going to happen weatherwise. The problem though is that you don't always
>> know that you're going to be impacted by something. We had a major flood
>> here in South Carolina and 2015 and we were not supposed to have problems
>> but because of dams breaking ironically like in New Orleans even though
>> they were on a much smaller scale and they were only damning of man-made
>> lakes, the water became so high all of a sudden that our first four
>> apartment that was in an area very high up flooded. The reason it flooded
>> was due to lack of maintenance on the part of the apartment staff. Our
>> apartment essentially filled up like a bathtub. To be woken up at 4
>> o'clock in the morning by hey soaking wet Labrador is something that I
>> will never forget and then to put your feet on the floor out of bed and
>> there's water halfway up the bed that is also something I will never
>> forget. I will never forget how cold the water was and also I remember
>> wondering to myself I wonder what's in this water that I'm standing in.
>> So yeah, I was thinking a lot about taxes this week and I hope that Raul
>> you are OK because I know how painful and scary it is to lose everything
>> and to be surrounded by water and call 911 to realize that it's going to
>> be hours before anybody can come get you and the fear of what is going to
>> happen to me particularly because we found out later that after we were
>> evacuated by a friend who drove two hours through the storm to come get us
>> that the water got worse. By that point we were already huddled on the
>> couch and the dogs were on our bed because we figured what were wet dogs
>> when you have a soaking wet apartment. The scary part for me on top of
>> everything else was that it was dark. I remember my husband opening the
>> door to outside in the water level outside was just as high as the water
>> level inside so we knew that it wasn't I don't really know what we did
>> that for but anyway I remember seeing the reflection of the streetlights
>> which were still on ironically, I remember seeing the reflection of them
>> off The water that was outside. We did not know what was going on but what
>> clued us into a problem was that our air conditioner switched from cooling
>> to emergency heat and this was in October and if you know anything about
>> the Southeast in October it's still hot down here so I only are you in the
>> dark but you're hot and you're surrounded by water. It was quite literally
>> a miserable experience.
>>
>> So yes, I agree get out if you can but if you don't know that something is
>> going to happen I have mercy on you because I really don't know what else
>> to say because we were expecting anything either.
>> Many prayers for the people and pets of Texas and those with their guide
>> dogs.
>>
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using
>> voice dictation Nancy Irwin
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2017, at 10:36 AM, The Pawpower Pack via NAGDU
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> You have a few options.
>>> If you have a folding staircase to the roof, your dog may be able to
>>> climb it. You should go behind him if possible.
>>> If you need to use a straight ladder You will need to rig a sling of some
>>> kind. The best way is to use either a dog life jacket or backpack with a
>>> handle designed for lifting dogs, or a harness designed for the same
>>> purpose.  You will need to clip a roap to the d-ring.  If there are 2
>>> people able to do this it will go easier.  The stronger person should be
>>> on the roof and should lower the rope to the person on the ground.  You
>>> can attach the rope to the vest.  The person on the roof  can wrap the
>>> rope around a chimney if possible for extra anchoring.
>>> Once the dog is in the vest and the vest attached to the rope, the person
>>> on the roof will be responsible for hauling the dog up.  The person on
>>> the ground can help stablize the dog if possible.  If there is only one
>>> person, you will need to hook the dog up first, then clim'b to the roof,
>>> rope in hand and pull the dog up.
>>> If you don't have a vest, you can rig a sling out of towels.  You
>>> should fold it widthwise And attach the rope to it however you can.  If
>>> you have no rope, you can use leashes hooked together.
>>> Hope this helps and stay safe.
>>> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 27, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think if I were in an area where that was a possibility (having to go
>>>> to the roof), I would try to leave before it came to that. I had not
>>>> even thought of it before. Instinctively the dog might go up there,
>>>> especially if you were, but I would be fearful, and that would surely
>>>> convey to the dog.
>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raul A.
>>>> Gallegos via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 8:19 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU List <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Raul A. Gallegos <raul at raulgallegos.com>
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Go to the roof in case of needing rescue
>>>>
>>>> Hello all. With all the rain and possible flooding going on over here in
>>>> Houston, the news is saying that if people's homes start filling with
>>>> water, make your way to the roof for rescue. What about our guides? I
>>>> can't see how we would safely get scared dogs up on our roof if it came
>>>> to that. I am worried what we would do if it came to having to do this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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