[NAGDU] update on me

Mon Feb 20 20:43:14 UTC 2017

So until you can get into the program, when the woman can work with you,
work on a route and then try it by yourself in the interim. It is scary at
first, but the pride that comes from having done it is just immense. I
remember when Jet, my black lab, could no longer work. I needed to walk to
the bank, or go there somehow. I began coming up with all kinds of excuses
why I couldn't do it, and pretty soon I didn't. I began to realize that they
were borne of fear. So I decided one day I was just going to do it. I did,
and I was a little afraid, but I got there and back, and I really felt like
dancing.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com

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I use a cane. Worked at a training center for the blind for 9 months in
2009. Up until then, I lived in a strictly residential area and wasn't
tought lighted intersections. I cross them now, but it needs work. After I
left the center, I had an instructor that only could work with me once a
week and I started only working  small routs.
Recently we've been working on city bus travel. But she says that it'll be a
couple weeks before she can work with me again. So this is why I'd like to
do the O and M training at leader dogs. Jump starts early work and I can
work everyday instead of once a week. I do live with my mother who is
sighted but she  cannot stand for long periods or walk long distances
because of her knees. Last May she had knee replacement surgery.

On 2/20/17, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> i am not amanda but i will answer same questions for myself I don't 
> have much in way of sited friends myself how can some body who is 
> sited tell you what todo iActually, I think Gary had good suggestions. 
> They are probably way better than the ones I gave.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cinddyray at gmail.com
> f they have not delt with blind  people in orientation. Is there any 
> kind of book or tips we can give those e helping us learn roots to 
> things? also like what is the trick to learning things to crossing 
> streets can this be done without an o and m instructor.
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU 
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>> You do not have any sighted friends? Have you not taken any mobility 
>> and do you use a white cane? You don't need a professional to help 
>> you with it really. I hope you will really benefit from that Leader 
>> course, but it is too bad you can't do that because you need constant
> practice to get better.
>> The less you do it, the more fearful you become. I know this from a 
>> little bit of experience.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>
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>> I don't have anybody in my area who can do this for me. Which is why 
>> I have to get help this way.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Feb 20, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am wondering if those of you who have no means of woking with a 
>> > professional could go out with people you know sometimes and work 
>> > on this on your own. Than as you grow more confident, you can go 
>> > out alone and ask for directions, ask what is where, or call places 
>> > to see where they are. You might want someone to go with you at 
>> > first, but if you get some ideas, you might need minimal help. For 
>> > instance, mostly when you are crossing streets, if the traffic is 
>> > paralle to you, you can cross. You have to be careful about turning 
>> > vehicles, and many streets have buttons so that you self-actuate 
>> > the light. You have to learn where the ones that get you across 
>> > your
> preferred street are.
>> > Maybe you can walk along and find shorelines--cracks between the 
>> > sidewalk and other cement, grass, rocks, whatever. You can have 
>> > someone go with you to describe what and where things are so you 
>> > can get some idea what you are going to encounter. Choose a place 
>> > you would want to go often, then have someone go with you a couple 
>> > or three times. After that, go by yourself but have them trail you 
>> > so that if you get lost they can help you out of a bind. 
>> > Eventually, you
>> would o how to get there.
>> >
>> > Cindy Lou Ray
>> > cindyray at gmail.com
>> >
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>> >
>> > the thing is this I moved into town and stuff but i don't know the 
>> > streets and things i can't go to the coffee shop or the pool or 
>> > anything can't go for a walk inless i have somebody with me. The 
>> > cnib is the main orginization here in canada but as i said it seems 
>> > hard to get weekly o andm even once a week.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Marianne Denning via NAGDU < 
>> > nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> >> Andrew, I am so sorry you can't get the training that would be 
>> >> helpful to you.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:22 PM, andrew edgcumbe via NAGDU < 
>> >> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> >>> Hi amanda I did the o and m training program at leader dogs 
>> >>> actually it
>> >> is
>> >>> a great program. I never have gotten a guide dog yet because i 
>> >>> don't feel good about my o and m skills I can't seem to get 
>> >>> enough o andm here it seems it seems difficault to get them to 
>> >>> come.  I am from
>> > ontario canada.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Amanda Markham via NAGDU < 
>> >>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> >>>> wrote:
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>> >>>> Just heard back from the O and M instructor I worked with from 
>> >>>> the Association For The Blind here in my area and she says there 
>> >>>> schedules are so booked, it'll be a couple weeks before her or 
>> >>>> one of the 3 other instructors can work with me. She very 
>> >>>> strongly suggested I fill out the application for the 
>> >>>> accelerated O and M training program at Leader Dogs For The 
>> >>>> Blind. I have just submitted my application. So glad this is an 
>> >>>> option available to me because this will be a week long training 
>> >>>> with work
> every day.
>> >>>> This will be good in the long run cause if I wait and work with 
>> >>>> the instructors here, they can only work with a client once a week.
>> >>>> Thanks for reading this.
>> >>>> Amanda Markham
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