[NAGDU] Relieving in the City

d m gina dmgina at sero.email
Thu Jan 26 20:18:24 UTC 2017


I would leave well enough alone, at least then you know he went and you 
won't have to worry about it the rest of the day.
It is when we go we don't always change our dinner time, we still have to go.
Good for him.
Original message:
> Hi Joe.
> I have tried changing his feeding a bit.  It used to be an equal amount 
> around 5:45 AM and 6:30 PM, but now he gets the bigger amount at 5:45 
> AM and a much smaller amount at 6:30 PM.  The thought was that it would 
> even out his poop schedule, but it doesn't seem to have had much 
> effect.  The relieving time that's a problem is around 3 PM.  I can 
> think about swapping--giving him a small breakfast and a big dinner.  
> He's always eaten first thing when we get up.  I'm not sure he could 
> deal with waiting a couple hours until we arrive at work.

> Is it possible to click for relieving?  I'd think he'd get so excited 
> he'd stop.  Or experiment to see if relieving anywhere would get him a 
> treat.  And it seems that he doesn't feel the need to go until he's 
> walked a bit.  He might really want to go, to get a treat, but not be 
> able to produce, even if he did what I call the dance of good faith, 
> spinning around to show me he's making an effort. Hmmm.
> Tracy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe Orozco via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:42 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Joe Orozco; Tracy Carcione
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Relieving in the City

> Would it be possible to change his feeding schedule? Perhaps wait to 
> feed him when you get into the office. Then you can try to make him 
> relieve himself near the office where you want him to go. Perhaps use 
> the clicker to mark off the general area where you want him to relieve, 
> and then as he’s taking care of business, use treats to celebrate his 
> accomplishment to draw an association between the spot and relieving.

> On a related note, what do you guys do when you do not find a trash can 
> or dumpster nearby? I’ve taken to carrying my bags with me until I find 
> one, but surely there’s a more graceful way of taking care of this? 
> It’s not the carrying I mind. I am pretty sure there are points when I 
> walk right past a trash can without knowing it though.

> Thanks, and please forgive any indirect thread high jacking with my own 
> question.

> Best,

> Joe


> On 1/26/17, Marsha Drenth via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Oh Tracy, my dog has the same issue. All of our travel is in big cities.
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a whole lot of answers, other than what
>> you've mentioned before. The only bit of information, that might be
>> helpful, is that instead of going out to the street, I will try to
>> find dumpsters. and relieve my puppy near the dumpster, for example in
>> an alley or down a side street. I don't know how this is done in New
>> York City, so this may not be useful to you. But generally near the
>> dumpster there is less traffic and or moving cars. I feel like those
>> of us who travel in cities, have to be very innovative when it comes to 
>> relieving.
>> I hope that this is in some small way helpful. But, I do understand
>> totally and completely.
>> PS when you say the bus terminal, do you mean the Port Authority bus
>> terminal? I did a lot of traveling between Penn station, long island
>> railroad, and the port authority for a good year. If I can remember
>> where I relieved my dog on that route maybe you could use the same
>> area. I'll think about it.

>> Marsha drenth
>> email: marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>> Sent with my IPhone
>> Please note that this email communication has been sent using my
>> iPhone. As such, I may have used dictation and had made attempts to 
>> mitigate errors.
>> Please do not be hesitant to ask for clarification as necessary.

>>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:

>>> I know most of you don't live in my world, so I'll explain my
>>> problem.  I know there are some people here in big cities, and maybe
>>> someone has a solution.  If there is a solution.

>>> There are not many safe relieving spots in midtown Manhattan.  The
>>> best ones are between parked cars, with 3 or 4 feet of space.  Second
>>> best is by 1 parked car, and listening closely in case someone starts
>>> pulling in.
>>> There
>>> are good spots within half a block of my office, then not for 5 or 6
>>> blocks after that on the way to the bus terminal.

>>> Both my dogs from TSE have wanted to walk before pooping.  This is
>>> not ideal, and I asked for a dog who doesn't empty on route last
>>> time, but it seems to be a feature or something, because Krokus does
>>> it, too.  Ben could go as far as the good spot 6 blocks away, but
>>> Krokus doesn't think he can.
>>> He starts stopping about a block away from the office.  It's like
>>> he's not happy with a spot unless cars are whizzing past his nose.
>>> And it's extra special if there is a pile of trash bags or a tree
>>> cutout for me to trip on near the curb.  It makes me crazy.  He keeps
>>> stopping, but it's not safe.
>>> So I either have to stop in a bad spot, and hope for the best, or
>>> keep correcting him and shooing him along until we actually reach a
>>> good spot, but his mind is at least half taken up with relieving, and 
>>> not guiding.

>>> I always try to get him to go on the same block as the office, but he
>>> just gazes around like he hasn't a clue.  Then he starts stopping on
>>> the next block. It's very frustrating.

>>> Tracy





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