[NAGDU] Field Reps

Thu Jul 6 01:35:01 UTC 2017

Folks, when we write messages on this list (and I am included in this) we
start our message as if people will immediately know what/whom we are
talking about. In the case of this message it was a short time ago. However,
we really should state the subject of our discussion in the sentence so that
people know without doubt what we are speaking about. When messages are very
old such as one I saw today, I had absolutely no idea without going to read
the message that was with it, and if someone had deleted it, it would likely
have been almost impossible to figure out what the discussion was about. I
know there is a subject line, but the conversation would be more easily
followed if we tried a little to remember to state the sentence in a way
that confirms comfortably what we are talking about. This is not a rule; it
just would be so so nice. I am going to try to do it more in my own private
messages, too.

Thanks, and I know I'll see many of you next week.
Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
cindyray at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via
NAGDU
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 8:04 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Field Reps

I am sure he is still living,
I would have been told differently.
Wow.

Original message:
> *Hi Dar,
> I don't know if Keith McGregor is alive, let alone still working with 
> Leader Dogs.
> Jordan, They've switched things up at Leader. I recommend that you 
> call and leave a voicemail with Graduate Services, they will, or so 
> I've been told, call you back. Yes, I'm a Leader Alum.

> Your Mileage May Vary

> Wayne And Harley D

> *
> On 7/5/2017 4:05 PM, d m gina via NAGDU wrote:
>> Write to Keith McGreger
>> I think that is how he spells his last name.
>> Original message:
>>> Its not about being hesitant it is about trying to figure out how to 
>>> word things correctly.  Leader does not seem to answer their phones 
>>> last severl times I have tried to call, and when I left a couple 
>>> messages, they were not returned.  So, I am trying to figure out who 
>>> to write to and if I should do it by e-mail or by mail.  Once I have 
>>> that figured out, I will be able to procedd in dealing with the 
>>> issue.  I definitely have a couple issues that need addressing, and 
>>> I will get them resolved one way or another.
>>> Jordan
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star 
>>> Gazer via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 12:45 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Star Gazer
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Field Reps

>>>                         Jordan, is it that you are busy, or that you 
>>> feel you shouldn't have this problem? I'm trying to understand your 
>>> hesitancy.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray 
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 8:35 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Field Reps

>>> Well, you can't be so busy tthat you couldn't place a call, could you?
>>> Anyway, if you are, then after the convention I would call them 
>>> every day.
>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>> cindyray at gmail.com

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan 
>>> Gallacher via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 11:58 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jordan Gallacher <jordanandbelto at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Field Reps

>>> I wish I had that kind of time to do that to be honest.  I am quite 
>>> busy between now and leaving for convention.
>>> Jordan

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 10:20 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:

>>>> I sure wouldn't wait until the end of the month. I would get in 
>>>> touch with them regularly, on a daily basis, and go up the chain of 
>>>> command rather quickly.
>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>> cindyray at gmail.com

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan 
>>>> Gallacher via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 9:52 PM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Jordan Gallacher <jordanandbelto at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Field Reps

>>>> No, we were just talking about it on the phone.  I am definitely 
>>>> going to be getting on this more after the convention if I don't 
>>>> hear anything by the end of the month that is for sure.  The 
>>>> problem with the harness is that if the handle slides forward, it 
>>>> just plain gets stuck.  I have a feeling something got bent the 
>>>> last time I flew and had it in the overhead bin because it was 
>>>> working fine up until I came
>>> back from my last trip.
>>>> Jordan
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie 
>>>> Johnson via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 5:46 PM
>>>> To: Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU
>>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Field Reps

>>>> Was your field rep in your town working with you in person?  I'm 
>>>> confused about the part about giving advice on street crossings 
>>>> without having seen the intersection. Could he/she have been using 
>>>> Google
>>> Earth?

>>>> Did you explain that the help provided wasn't really helpful? 
>>>> Perhaps they could consult with a colleague and get back to you 
>>>> with some more ideas.  Or help you with other ideas.  But if they 
>>>> don't know the first ideas weren't helpful, it's doubtful they'd offer
others.

>>>> What about calling the program to speak with the supervisor?  If 
>>>> you feel you've done all you can and the situation still isn't 
>>>> resolved, then perhaps the next step is moving up the ladder.

>>>> What is wrong with your harness that you can't properly follow? Is 
>>>> this a new thing?  Did the dog's pace or pull change, that can 
>>>> definitely influence the feel.  Other than that I can't think of 
>>>> anything, short of a broken part on the harness.

>>>> I hope you can get it resolved.
>>>> Julie

>>>>> On 7/3/2017 4:42 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>> Anyone else notice that field reps are not as good as they used to be?
>>>> Also, has anyone else notice that they try to give advice about 
>>>> steer crossings for which they have never seen?  For example, the 
>>>> only advice my field rep is giving me about a couple street 
>>>> crossings in this town is just plain don't do them since they can be
difficult.
>>>> Slidell is one of those towns where if I don't cross those 
>>>> crossings, which even though they can be difficult and Belto 
>>>> sometimes has difficulties at these, crossings, he does them just 
>>>> fine most of the time.  Any advice on what I should do besides 
>>>> ignoring the field rep,
>>> which is kind of what I am going to have to do.
>>>> Another problem is that Belto's harness is not functioning 
>>>> properly, and thus I am having a hard time telling what he is 
>>>> doing. What should I do since I am not being taken seriously about
that?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jordan

>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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