[NAGDU] Criminal background check

Mon Jun 19 17:34:23 UTC 2017

Yes, my friend said they asked a lot of personal financial questions, like
"What do you spend on electricity?  What do you spend on food?"  We both
thought it was a bit much. And, after all this, they still do not grant
the client ownership of the dog.

And that's funny, Marion--Trump wouldn't be a good Fidelco candidate
because he wouldn't give them his tax return!
Tracy

> Dear All,
>
> 	Fidelco has a distinct patern of being very intrusive to applicants'
> personal information. It is my understanding that they also require
> applicants to submit their most recent IRS f. 1040 before being accepted
> for
> training. I guess Donald Trump wouldn't be a good candidate! (smile)
>
> Marion
>
>
>
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
> National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:53 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Criminal background check
>
> ,that doe/n't make sense to me either that they would do a criminal
> background ceeck on the trainees because of the possibility of problems by
> other members of the family.
> Cindy Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:32 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Criminal background check
>
> Fidelco is different from many programs in that the trainer works with the
> client in the client's home area.  They told my friend a trainer had been
> threatened and intimidated by a client's family member, so they came up
> with
> this policy.
> That doesn't make sense to me.  I wouldn't think a background check on me
> would turn up problems with my family.  Maybe it would show if the police
> had been called to my house, but I'm not even sure about that.
> Tracy
>
>> I don't know, guys,is it really necessary, I mean, unless a school can
>> tell me or convince me that they've had problem with people with
>> criminal records in enough cases that this is warranted, I would be
>> very hesitant to just buy in to that type of reasoning.
>>
>> So let's see, all  do you need a criminal background check to receive
>> services for the blind? What about other comparable services, yes I
>> know, it all boils down to the argument about what you're allowed to
>> ask if you are providing a service and ultimately it comes back to the
>> same type of arguments we hear about ownership, to give ownership or
>> not to give ownership.  If it were up to me, NAGDU and GDUI would be
>> asking Fidelco why this is so necessary.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/18/2017 10:08 PM, Alana Leonhardy via NAGDU wrote:
>>> Hi, all,
>>> First off, if a school is going to require a background check, they
>>> absolutely need to use a fully accessible website.
>>> On the issue itself, I think background checks are fine for a couple
>>> of reasons. I agree with some previous posters that having a criminal
>>> record should not automatically disqualify someone from being
>>> accepted to training...and if that's how some schools are doing
>>> things, then that's a big problem. I think that, with some acceptions
>>> for various serious crimes, things need to be looked at on a case by
>>> case
> basis.
>>> That being said, the safety of the dog isn't the only thing that
>>> needs to be taken in to account. There are also the other student's
>>> to consider. For example, a person convicted of rape may be a fine
>>> dog handler, but it wouldn't be fair to potentially put the other
>>> students in danger regardless of how well that person may be able to
>>> work a guide dog.
>>> Alana
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 18, 2017, at 07:03, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine is applying to Fidelco, and he had to undergo a
>>>> criminal background check as part of the application process.
>>>> Fidelco told him the IGDF is recommending that all schools add the
>>>> check.  He also said the website Fidelco used for his part of the
>>>> check wasn't really accessible, and he had to have a sighted person
>>>> fill out the form for him.
>>>>
>>>> Just thought I'd share.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
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