[NAGDU] Criminal background check

Star Gazer pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Mon Jun 19 19:28:40 UTC 2017


			Anybody have a rationale as to why they do this?

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Dear All,

	Fidelco has a distinct patern of being very intrusive to applicants'
personal information. It is my understanding that they also require
applicants to submit their most recent IRS f. 1040 before being accepted for
training. I guess Donald Trump wouldn't be a good candidate! (smile)

Marion 



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,that doe/n't make sense to me either that they would do a criminal
background ceeck on the trainees because of the possibility of problems by
other members of the family.
Cindy Ray
cindyray at gmail.com


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Fidelco is different from many programs in that the trainer works with the
client in the client's home area.  They told my friend a trainer had been
threatened and intimidated by a client's family member, so they came up with
this policy.
That doesn't make sense to me.  I wouldn't think a background check on me
would turn up problems with my family.  Maybe it would show if the police
had been called to my house, but I'm not even sure about that.
Tracy

> I don't know, guys,is it really necessary, I mean, unless a school can 
> tell me or convince me that they've had problem with people with 
> criminal records in enough cases that this is warranted, I would be 
> very hesitant to just buy in to that type of reasoning.
>
> So let's see, all  do you need a criminal background check to receive 
> services for the blind? What about other comparable services, yes I 
> know, it all boils down to the argument about what you're allowed to 
> ask if you are providing a service and ultimately it comes back to the 
> same type of arguments we hear about ownership, to give ownership or 
> not to give ownership.  If it were up to me, NAGDU and GDUI would be 
> asking Fidelco why this is so necessary.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/18/2017 10:08 PM, Alana Leonhardy via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>> First off, if a school is going to require a background check, they 
>> absolutely need to use a fully accessible website.
>> On the issue itself, I think background checks are fine for a couple 
>> of reasons. I agree with some previous posters that having a criminal 
>> record should not automatically disqualify someone from being 
>> accepted to training...and if that's how some schools are doing 
>> things, then that's a big problem. I think that, with some acceptions 
>> for various serious crimes, things need to be looked at on a case by 
>> case
basis.
>> That being said, the safety of the dog isn't the only thing that 
>> needs to be taken in to account. There are also the other student's 
>> to consider. For example, a person convicted of rape may be a fine 
>> dog handler, but it wouldn't be fair to potentially put the other 
>> students in danger regardless of how well that person may be able to 
>> work a guide dog.
>> Alana
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2017, at 07:03, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend of mine is applying to Fidelco, and he had to undergo a 
>>> criminal background check as part of the application process.
>>> Fidelco told him the IGDF is recommending that all schools add the 
>>> check.  He also said the website Fidelco used for his part of the 
>>> check wasn't really accessible, and he had to have a sighted person 
>>> fill out the form for him.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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