[NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my apartment complex

Sun Mar 5 19:42:10 UTC 2017

				I can guarantee you the parents aren't there. Parents interact with their kids and/or talk with each other. Nothing from the parents means the kids are running around loose. The parents may not know this isn't allowed, in which case local law enforcement can educate them. That is one of the things they are paid to do. CPS can do likewise. 

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I think that you said that you had tried to get in touch with your landlord about this...Have you spoken with him/her yet? Obviously, these parents would have had to have some sort of communication with the landlord, so I would honestly try to learn more about them and get a message to them through the landlord if possible.

Normally, I wouldn't condone being mean to children, but in this case, it may be the only option to keep you safe for now. If you do that, however, it would still probably be a good idea to talk with your landlord, as this could cause some major issues if the kids' parents or other neighbors see or hear you interacting with the kids that way...

I don't know if I would call CPS or law enforcement unless I am sure that the parents actually are not watching their kids. They may be just quietly observing them from their porch...But if you are sure they are unsupervised, you may want to consider calling, as this not only poses a danger to you but also to the kids.

I am sorry that there is not an obvious and easy solution for this.
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On 3/5/17, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 				How young are these kids? I'd call CPS if they are too young to 
> play alone and tell them when to come by and observe. Sounds harsh, I 
> know, but that's how I'd handle it. I'd leave the dog issue out of it, 
> just say that they appear to be unsupervised, that this happens every 
> day and you'd like them to check it out. You could also try local law 
> enforcement, again, I'd leave the dog issue out of it.
>
>
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> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha 
> Dudley via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 6:58 PM
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> Cc: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my 
> apartment complex
>
> Hey all,
> I have an interesting situation in my apartment complex that I would 
> like your thoughts about.
> All the apartments in this building face a central grass courtyard. 
> Every day, someone allows their two very small, non-English speaking 
> children to run and play in that yard without direct supervision. If I 
> am outside with my dog, these kids come racing over, and start 
> distracting my dog. They stare at her, squeal, run around us, stick 
> their hands out and then run away, and otherwise taunt her. I have 
> tried on various occasions to ask them to stop, shake my head, etc, 
> but nothing has worked. It’s been bad enough at times that I literally 
> can’t do anything without these kids following us and distracting 
> Whitley. Unfortunately, i cannot easily unlock my door with them 
> around, because Whitley is always trying to watch them to see what 
> they are doing. I know that I could and should do some more work with 
> Whitley on child distractions, but I feel like some of this is not her 
> fault. Staring is competitive and playful body language to a dog, and, 
> in that situation, she can’t help but react. Also, I feel like these 
> kids are interfering with her work and could well get us hurt, 
> especially since there are big, wrought iron staircases on the outside 
> of the building that just out over the edge of the sidewalk and could 
> do some serious damage to my head if Whitley was not paying attention. Do any of you have any thoughts? I have called my landlord once, but the had no success.
> Thanks,
> Aleeha
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