[NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my apartment complex

[S L Johnson]

Hello:

I had a similar problem in my previous complex.  I spoke to the manager and 
she made sure to speak to the parents.  Most apartment complexes have rules 
about unattended children.  Reporting it to the management can help to get 
the parents to understand how important it is for their children to leave 
your dog alone.  If the children speak a foreign language it is possible the 
parents do not understand English.  I had this and found ot from the manager 
that we had many families from several countries in the complex and many of 
the parents did not understand or speak any English so depended on their 
children who learned some English at school to interpret for them.  if 
necessary see if the manager will get an interpreter to meet with them to be 
sure they understand the situation.  In many foreign countries there are no 
guide dogs around so those families would not have any idea of how to act 
around a person walking with a guide dog.  They would not know the 
significance of the guide dog harness.  I also had my manager put a notice 
in the monthly newsletter.  In that notice I made it clear that when I was 
walking with my dog she should not be bothered by children or adults and 
that people should keep their pet dogs under control and not let them 
distract her.  These suggestions did help so I hope they help you too.  Good 
luck.

Sandra and Eva


-----Original Message----- 
From: Star Gazer via NAGDU
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 5:21 AM
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Cc: Star Gazer
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my 
apartment complex

Why would you assume they are in a fenced area? They may be, they may not 
be, but either way they shouldn't be out alone, and most jurisdictions have 
rules against such behavior.

-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via 
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my 
apartment complex

Of course they are in a fenced area. I should think they would care though. 
They do sound to be very young.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my 
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It sounds like the kids are very young, maybe preschool age? That's too 
young in most jurisdictions to be playing without an adult present, 
especially in a common area. The police would want to know about that. If 
she starts in about how "the neighborhood kids are distracting my dog", it 
will come off as someone who's dog isn't well-trained. She may even give the 
impression that "the neighborhood kids" are older then they really are. Law 
enforcement won't much care about older kids unless property is destroyed or 
a human gets hurt. They will care very much about young children.

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Rebecca, I am wondering why you would leave the dog issue out of it? Why do 
you think it might be more effective to do that.
I have sort of mixed feelings about it myself.

Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com


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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my 
apartment complex

How young are these kids? I'd call CPS if they are too young to play alone 
and tell them when to come by and observe. Sounds harsh, I know, but that's 
how I'd handle it. I'd leave the dog issue out of it, just say that they 
appear to be unsupervised, that this happens every day and you'd like them 
to check it out. You could also try local law enforcement, again, I'd leave 
the dog issue out of it.


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Subject: [NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my 
apartment complex

Hey all,
I have an interesting situation in my apartment complex that I would like 
your thoughts about.
All the apartments in this building face a central grass courtyard. Every 
day, someone allows their two very small, non-English speaking children to 
run and play in that yard without direct supervision. If I am outside with 
my dog, these kids come racing over, and start distracting my dog. They 
stare at her, squeal, run around us, stick their hands out and then run 
away, and otherwise taunt her. I have tried on various occasions to ask them 
to stop, shake my head, etc, but nothing has worked. Itâ?Ts been bad enough 
at times that I literally canâ?Tt do anything without these kids following 
us and distracting Whitley. Unfortunately, i cannot easily unlock my door 
with them around, because Whitley is always trying to watch them to see what 
they are doing. I know that I could and should do some more work with 
Whitley on child distractions, but I feel like some of this is not her 
fault. Staring is competitive and playful body language to a dog, and, in 
that situation, she canâ?Tt help but react. Also, I feel like these kids are 
interfering with her work and could well get us hurt, especially since there 
are big, wrought iron staircases on the outside of the building that just 
out over the edge of the sidewalk and could do some serious damage to my 
head if Whitley was not paying attention. Do any of you have any thoughts? I 
have called my landlord once, but the had no success.
Thanks,
Aleeha
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