[NAGDU] Relieving on route

Thu Mar 9 20:26:48 UTC 2017

Yep a log does help but not completely.
Jordan

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A log may be a good idea anyway because it issn't on all trips, right? I
found that if I allowed my dog to go wherever she wanted to, she would stop
at the same place again, so it was sort of becoming a habit. I always pulled
her past there and made her work until she wouldn't work anymore. Then if
she did and we completed the trip, I took her outside as sort of a reward as
well as a relief. I don't think it completely helped though.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Relieving on route

I experimented for 2 months or so with feeding most of Krokus food in the
morning, with a smaller portion in the evening.  I kept a log of poop times,
which showed that the change in feeding did not make any real difference, so
I went back to half-and-half, which is easier for me to measure.
Feel free to try yourself, though.  I found the log very helpful in showing
whether it was having the desired effect.
Tracy

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I am going to have to try playing around with how much food Belto gets and
when I get I think.  I have not quite figured out how much to feed him in
terms of that in the morning and at night since he gets one cup both times.
Jordan

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Relieving on route

I have the same issue.  Claire Rose is 41 moths old.  She urinates in a
regular spot in the morning, but will not defecate until she is about 50
yards into walking outside.  That's not much of a problem.  The two
additional stops to defecate at about 500 and 1,000 to 3,000 yards, however,
are a big problem, especially since they are interspersed with two more
stops to urinate (briefly squirt).  I can't tell whether she is pulling over
to defecate or to urinate, so if I think she just wants to squirt and I
don't stop, I find that she has left a poop trail on the sidewalk.  If l
wait to remove her harness while she is hunching up to defecate, then she
stops and won't continue until we get another 20 yards down the street.
I've worked with my trainer on schedules, diet and adding things to her
food.  We switched to hydrolyzed protein, which decreased the volume and the
odor dramatically, but has not altered the behavior.  We added Metamucil,
but she vomited every meal that included it about 6 hours after feeding.  We
added green beans - a bit softer, but no change in behavior.  I'm now trying
a couple of tablespoons of pumpkin puree, which has also softened the stool
somewhat and added a little volume, but, again, no change in behavior.
Since I have some residual vision on good days, I can usually handle this
even though it is very frustrating.  I am more concerned about travel, Since
she defecates in harness if I don't stop, I am wondering if this is going to
be a problem with flying.  In the past, she handled 10 three hour flights
with ease, but back then she didn't have this issue.
Does anyone have any other ideas about changing this pattern of behavior?
David
& Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL
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Subject: [NAGDU] Relieving on route
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Date: Thu, March 9, 2017 9:17 am

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> I wrote a few weeks ago about getting Krokus to relieve himself in a 
> safe

> place, if he must relieve himself on route.

>

> My last dog also needed to relieve on route, but he could go until we

> reached a particular spot. This is better than what I've got now, 
> which is

> that Krokus stops when he feels the urge, then I have to shoo him 
> along

> until we come to a safe place.

>

> Right now, he slams on the brakes when he feels the need to stop, and 
> I give

> him a sharp correction. Then he keeps slowing down at various places 
> he

> thinks could be good, and I keep hopping him up until we get to a 
> place of

> my choosing.

>

> Ideally, I want him to go before we set out, which sometimes happens, 
> and

> sometimes not. If he does go right away, he gets lots of praise.

>

> Next best, I'd like to eliminate all the stopping. If he must stop, 
> I'd

> like him to stop once at a place I've chosen.

>

> Is there some easier way to get to my goal, without all the correcting 
> and

> shooing?

>

> Tracy

>

>

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