[NAGDU] Relieving on route

[d m gina]

Original Well not the answer you would like to hear, where I would just 
let the dog go pick up and be on my way.
I wouldn't like it either where the dog is going to do what it wishes.
Then it knows it will get its way no matter what.
If you are in a safe area on the walk.
Another thing I would do in my case, is if the dog wishes to do this, I 
would put the toileting harness on make the dog wear the bag until all 
of its poops are out, then take it off find the trash and be a happy camper.
I know the school doesn't like this, where I also know I wouldn't have 
to find the poop.
Just some thoughts.
message:



> I have the same issue.  Claire Rose is 41 moths old.  She urinates in a 
> regular spot in the morning, but will not defecate until she is about 
> 50 yards into walking outside.  That's not much of a problem.  The two 
> additional stops to defecate at about 500 and 1,000 to 3,000
> yards, however, are a big problem, especially since they are 
> interspersed with two more stops to urinate (briefly squirt).  I can't 
> tell whether she is pulling over to defecate or to urinate, so if I 
> think she just wants to squirt and I don't stop, I find that she has 
> left a poop trail on the
> sidewalk.  If l wait to remove her harness while she is hunching up to 
> defecate, then she stops and won't continue until we get another 20 
> yards down the street.
> I've worked with my trainer on schedules, diet and adding things to her 
> food.  We switched to hydrolyzed protein, which
> decreased the volume and the odor dramatically, but has not altered the 
> behavior.  We added Metamucil, but she vomited every meal that included 
> it about 6 hours after feeding.  We added green beans - a bit softer, 
> but no change in behavior.  I'm now trying a couple of tablespoons of
> pumpkin puree, which has also softened the stool somewhat and added a 
> little volume, but, again, no change in behavior.  Since I have some 
> residual vision on good days, I can usually handle this even though it 
> is very frustrating.  I am more concerned about travel,  Since she
> defecates in harness if I don't stop, I am wondering if this is going 
> to be a problem with flying.  In the past, she handled 10 three hour 
> flights with ease, but back then she didn't have this issue.
> Does anyone have any other ideas about changing this pattern of behavior?
> David
> & Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL
> Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: [NAGDU] Relieving on route
> From: "Tracy Carcione via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> Date: Thu, March 9, 2017 9:17 am

> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> Cc: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>

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>> I wrote a few weeks ago about getting Krokus to relieve himself in a safe

>> place, if he must relieve himself on route.



>> My last dog also needed to relieve on route, but he could go until we

>> reached a particular spot. This is better than what I've got now, which is

>> that Krokus stops when he feels the urge, then I have to shoo him along

>> until we come to a safe place.



>> Right now, he slams on the brakes when he feels the need to stop, and I give

>> him a sharp correction. Then he keeps slowing down at various places he

>> thinks could be good, and I keep hopping him up until we get to a place of

>> my choosing.



>> Ideally, I want him to go before we set out, which sometimes happens, and

>> sometimes not. If he does go right away, he gets lots of praise.



>> Next best, I'd like to eliminate all the stopping. If he must stop, I'd

>> like him to stop once at a place I've chosen.



>> Is there some easier way to get to my goal, without all the correcting and

>> shooing?



>> Tracy







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