[NAGDU] time to think about which guide dog school to apply to

Fri May 19 22:42:15 UTC 2017

Hi,

I hearsd that they have also changed there training metheds.  I think that
this is good.  I had two dogs from them, but neither of them worked out, but
this is only my experiences so just take it for what its worth.

Matthew

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I realize that Pilot Dogs has not been referred too, but it is in Ohio and
they have a new facility.  I don't know about ownership, but my last 2
guides have been from Pilot and they work fine.

I chose Pilot specifically because I swore I would never fly again after my
last flight with my guide.  I was forced down a hallway and searched for
absolutely no reason.  When I explained that Amos's harness was setting off
the alarm and the TSA people wouldn't listen, I had enough of their stuff!
Have you considered Columbus sent you don't want to fly?

Have a great day!

Bob Hicks

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Depending upon where you live, another good option is Freedom Guide Dogs.
Two reasons I suggest them is that they transfer ownership upon completion
of training and provide only community placement. In other words, they come
to you. They have no facilities to house consumers, as they focus strictly
on providing training in your own community.

	I would also like to recommend, as others have stated, you check out
ownership policies. I believe ownership has distinct advantages. Not only do
you need to never worry about your dog being taken away without cause, you
have the confidence that, when you need help, you do not have any concern
they will think you are a poor handler and remove the dog. Be wary of
Fidelco which states you own your dog after six months but contractually
assert they have the right to repossess the dog at any time and for any
reason at their sole and absolute discretion. No matter what they call it,
this is not ownership!

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala

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National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of
the Blind
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Tray to gather information about the top 3 schools you might be interested
in going that. Some schools do grant ownership after two years of working
with a guide. TSE and GDB grant ownership but I'm not sure about GDF. It
doesn't hurt to talk to staff at some of the schools so that you can make an
informed choice. Some of us would be happy to share our experiences with
you, but as you know, the decision is yours. Smiles. I wish you the best
with your school search!

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] time to think about which guide dog school to apply to

>
>
> TSE, Leader, and GDF are all good.  First you have to decide what you 
> want from a school because not all schools are the same when it comes 
> to training.
> Jordan
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> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brenda via
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> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:37 AM
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> Subject: [NAGDU] time to think about which guide dog school to apply 
> to
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> this week my pet dog Sadie passed over the rainbow bridge.  She was 15
years
> old and we had a wonderful life together. She is playing with her cat 
> sisters who have gone before her. I will miss her and am still sad, 
> but
she
> is no longer suffering so I'm at peace.
> 
> As my vision waned over the years, I became more and more interested 
> in getting a guide dog, but sadie who was an APL rescue didn't like 
> other
dogs.
> I did get O&m training to maintain my independence and have been using 
> my skills and now I am ready to apply for a guide.
> 
> I have been surfing the guide dog school websites and reading posts 
> from here and elsewhere about different guide dog schools and am now 
> trying to sort things out.
> 
> Several schools at the top of my list do not grant full ownership. 
> This concerns me, but other than that I like the schools.  One school 
> that does grant ownership is in California.  I live in Ohio and don't 
> want to be on
a
> plane for a long time.  that may be silly, but I can't get over it.
> 
> So'''I would appreciate Listers input/opinions/guidance/thoughts on my 
> situation.
> 
> the school I really like is Guiding eyes for the Blind.  They do not 
> grant ownership at all, but I have not heard/read  anything negative 
> about
them.
I
> doubt they are in business to develop teams only to take the dog away.
> 
> My intent is not to debate ownership issues.  I want to learn Listers' 
> experiences with nonownership schools with the focus on GEB.
> 
> Thanks for any input.
> 
> Brenda
> 
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